America needs to step up with a real Heavyweight

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  • RimmyDelicious
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    #11
    Originally posted by johnm
    I agree. I'd like to see the Klischko's tested by some tough HW's. We'll likely never know how great they could be.
    They are the greatest heavyweights of their era, which is as great as it is objectively possible to declare any heavyweight. You can assume any era's best are better or worse than any other but it's all just an assumption.

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      #12
      Originally posted by -GDS-
      When people point out that the best HW sized atheletes are in other sports in America, people seemed to get offended.
      it's the truth though.

      maybe not 100% but there's something in it.

      if you're a heavyweight size kid in high school , more than likely you're on the football team or basketball team.

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        #13
        Originally posted by -GDS-
        When people point out that the best HW sized atheletes are in other sports in America, people seemed to get offended.
        As they should, because it's a cheap excuse. Every country has other sports where their athletes can go, not just USA.

        The two most promising prospects in the USA right now are Deontay Wilder and Tor Hammer, while european prospects like Helenius, Pulev, Boytsov are being moved much quicker and have much more impressive resumes, so I see europeans dominating for quite a while.

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        • Steelhammer2011
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          #14
          Originally posted by Knickerbocker
          it's the truth though.

          maybe not 100% but there's something in it.

          if you're a heavyweight size kid in high school , more than likely you're on the football team or basketball team.
          Tons of potential Eastern European Heavyweight Boxers are doing Combat Sambo, MMA, Kickboxing, Hockey, Olympic Wrestling, Olympic Weightlifting, Powerlifting, Worlds Strongest Man Competitions, etc.

          America isn't the only country on the planet that has other sports you dumbass.
          Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 03-25-2010, 02:50 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Steelhammer2010
            Tons of potential Eastern European Heavyweight Boxers are doing Combat Sambo, MMA, Kickboxing, Hockey, Olympic Wrestling, Olympic Weightlifting, Powerlifting, Worlds Strongest Man Competitions, etc.

            America isn't the only country on the planet that has other sports you ignorant racist piece of ****.
            what did i say that was racist?

            ****** slav.

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            • geribeetus
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              #16
              Originally posted by Knickerbocker
              what did i say that was racist?

              ****** slav.
              maybe not racist, but he is right. the "other sports are taking our boxers" excuse is dumb. there's always been other sports.

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                #17
                I don't think American heavyweights will be able to knock the Klitschkos off their throne until they willingly do so in the form of retirement.

                But props to the brothers, no matter how boring they may be.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pirao
                  As they should, because it's a cheap excuse. Every country has other sports where their athletes can go, not just USA.

                  The two most promising prospects in the USA right now are Deontay Wilder and Tor Hammer, while european prospects like Helenius, Pulev, Boytsov are being moved much quicker and have much more impressive resumes, so I see europeans dominating for quite a while.
                  Originally posted by Steelhammer2010
                  Tons of potential Eastern European Heavyweight Boxers are doing Combat Sambo, MMA, Kickboxing, Hockey, Olympic Wrestling, Olympic Weightlifting, Powerlifting, Worlds Strongest Man Competitions, etc.

                  America isn't the only country on the planet that has other sports you ignorant racist piece of ****.
                  Told you. And as to Pirao, I don't know how Euro prospects being better than U.S. ones disproves the arguement that the best HW sized atheletes going into other sports. The fact that a guy like Chambers, who can't even make 209 and be as ripped as Wlad was at 244, might be the best HW the U.S. had to offer can't help either.

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                  • Davros?
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                    #19
                    I feel sorry for the American fight fans but there isnt any American with a chance for a few years, Wilder might do well but we wont know for another 3-4 years.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by geribeetus
                      maybe not racist, but he is right. the "other sports are taking our boxers" excuse is dumb. there's always been other sports.
                      no it's not.

                      there's something to it.

                      how many american kids now grow up wanting to be a boxer?

                      nowadays , american heavyweights generally are like jameel mccline.

                      someone goes up to them and says , "hey you're big. go try boxing."

                      learning a sport when you're in your mid 20's is not the same as growing up into it.

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