Hopkins has lost to most of the best fighters he has ever faced

[General Zod]

were tito trinidad, dlh and pavlik shot when he defeated them?

what are the factors that u dont consider them as best fighter?

What has Pavlik done at lhw? where he is now 0-1
What has DLH done at mw? He got a gift against Sturm and lost to Hopkins he should be 0-2 at mw i.e a poor mw fighter
Tito is 3-2 at mw, with all his losses to the best fighters he fought at that weight, so he was good/solid at that weight but obviously not in his prime division.

[kbpoetree]

What has Pavlik done at lhw? where he is now 0-1
What has DLH done at mw? He got a gift against Sturm and lost to Hopkins he should be 0-2 at mw i.e a poor mw fighter
Tito is 3-2 at mw, with all his losses to the best fighters he fought at that weight, so he was good/solid at that weight but obviously not in his prime division.

but man a fighter is a fighter basicly no matter what his weight is i mean most of these guys walk around at way higher weights its spar at these weights etc...its really not that big a deal to fluctuate weight less it was like Roy and u took Roids to gain like 50 lbs and then off to lose the weight...

[street bully]

First of all Taylor was one of the worst titlist he ever faced, and most of us think Hopkins beat Taylor. Calzaghe was also a controversial fight that many of us including ALL ringside scores had Hopkins winning. Hopkins has only lost clearly once to Roy Jones, and even that was a pretty close fight.

[THE REED]

but man a fighter is a fighter basicly no matter what his weight is i mean most of these guys walk around at way higher weights its spar at these weights etc...its really not that big a deal to fluctuate weight less it was like Roy and u took Roids to gain like 50 lbs and then off to lose the weight...

Took roids to gain 50 lbs?

Where do you get this **** from?


And a fighters weight most definitely makes a difference.


So if Israel Vazquez moves up to fight Pavlik.. hey he's a fighter right?

Even playing ground.

[General Zod]

You can nitpick through anyones resume.

Of course, but it doesnt change the fact that he has lost to most of the best guys he fought, who were fighting in their prime divisions or close too it.
He should of fought Dawson, instead of Pavlik or a shot Jones

[kbpoetree]

Took roids to gain 50 lbs?

Where do you get this **** from?


And a fighters weight most definitely makes a difference.


So if Israel Vazquez moves up to fight Pavlik.. hey he's a fighter right?

Even playing ground.

ga damn dude ****...lol u take everything i say literally...lol I have no proof of Roy taken roids other than i'm a personal trainer worked at Golds for 8 years and no how a body works and how to gain muscle and leanness quickly as he did...yes i speculate he took roids but will not say HE DID far as how much he gained not sure was jus tryna show a point but i'm not tryna b exact lol

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Cant argue with much of what you said. Hopkins was competitive with all the guys he lost to though. No one has ever really beaten him convincingly.

[THE REED]

ga damn dude ****...lol u take everything i say literally...lol I have no proof of Roy taken roids other than i'm a personal trainer worked at Golds for 8 years and no how a body works and how to gain muscle and leanness quickly as he did...yes i speculate he took roids but will not say HE DID far as how much he gained not sure was jus tryna show a point but i'm not tryna b exact lol

He fought at LHW... 175lbs.

He walks around at 190lbs.

He weighed for his HW fight at 193lbs.

Do you now see how that is ridiculous?

[street bully]

ga damn dude ****...lol u take everything i say literally...lol I have no proof of Roy taken roids other than i'm a personal trainer worked at Golds for 8 years and no how a body works and how to gain muscle and leanness quickly as he did...yes i speculate he took roids but will not say HE DID far as how much he gained not sure was jus tryna show a point but i'm not tryna b exact lol

He was working with one of the best sports trainers in America with Mackie Shielstone.

[BritishBoxing92]

The best fighters Hopkins has ever faced are: Calzaghe, Taylor, Tarver, Jones
and he is 1-4 against them.

How can people on this forum rank him as high as ATG 50, with this record?

EDIT: Who didnt have to move up 1-2 weight classes to fight Hopkins, Calzaghe was ready to make the jump to lhw so thats ok.

What About Trinidad,De La Hoya,Tarver,Pavlik,Johnson?