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  • Tiozzo
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    #31
    Originally posted by braddman
    I'm not the one saying body slamming in Boxing is ok, so who's the real arsehole here as evident that everyone in this thread just about thinks you're wrong?
    Everything I say, you manipulate. I said body slamming was OK in this particular case. And you should let others think for themselves.

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    • Tiozzo
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      Ali leaned on Frazier's neck all night long in their second fight.
      I was sure someone would come up with this example.

      But it's not a good example since Ali is holding Foreman using his arms around his neck, while the real problem with leaning is the extra weight your opponent puts on your back. So Ali wasn't putting no weight on Foreman, he was just immobilizing his movement. Maybe it gives a sore neck, but it doesn't tire you out. Ali vs Foreman was holding, not leaning.

      Wlad has the perfect stature to use that dirty kind of tactics, which he does everytime he gets the chance.

      I'm so sick of people who won't hear the slightest critic about the Klits (I'm not talking about you Rado).

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      • Tiozzo
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        #33
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        Ali leaned on Frazier's neck all night long in their second fight.
        I misread the name... Frazier...

        Yes, since Frazier had a small stature, Ali did put his weight on his neck in the second fight. Even if it is Ali, it's still a dirty tactic. But Ali didn't do it systematically throughout his careerlike Wlad...

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        • Dave Rado
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          #34
          Originally posted by tourlou82
          I misread the name... Frazier...

          Yes, since Frazier had a small stature, Ali did put his weight on his neck in the second fight. Even if it is Ali, it's still a dirty tactic. But Ali didn't do it systematically throughout his careerlike Wlad...
          Hopkins systematically used dirty tactics throughout most of his career, so did Duran, Marciano, Saddler, and other ATGs. Maybe not the particular dirty tactics Wlad uses, but to imply that ATGs don't resort to systematic use of dirty tactics to gain an advantage is wrong. In an ideal world there would be no dirty tactics used in boxing, but this is the real world.

          Ali rarely used that tactic because it wouldn't usually have worked for him, not necessarily for any ethical reason. He certainly never said anything to imply he felt any remorse for having used that tactic against Frazier.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            Hopkins systematically used dirty tactics throughout most of his career, so did Duran, Marciano, Saddler, and other ATGs. Maybe not the particular dirty tactics Wlad uses, but to imply that ATGs don't resort to systematic use of dirty tactics to gain an advantage is wrong. In an ideal world there would be no dirty tactics used in boxing, but this is the real world.

            Ali rarely used that tactic because it wouldn't usually have worked for him, not necessarily for any ethical reason. He certainly never said anything to imply he felt any remorse for having used that tactic against Frazier.
            I've never said or implied that... Of course, I was talking about that particular dirty tactic which is to lean...
            Dirty fighting is part of the game... But that doesn't mean a fighter should not retaliate when he tastes some of it.

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              #36
              Originally posted by tourlou82
              I've never said or implied that... Of course, I was talking about that particular dirty tactic which is to lean...
              Dirty fighting is part of the game... But that doesn't mean a fighter should not retaliate when he tastes some of it.
              by the way wlad won by KO not UD, so you lost your bet

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              • Boxing Scene
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                #37
                Originally posted by tourlou82
                Everything I say, you manipulate. I said body slamming was OK in this particular case. And you should let others think for themselves.
                Just the fact you said body slamming was ok in ANY FIGHT makes you a ****, and most people if not 99 percent of the people IN BOXING would agree with me. Now fyck off twat.

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                  #38
                  Eddie should fire his trainer, he gave no useful advice at all. Roy Murry Sr. is a dumb ass.

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