Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko Examines Wladimir's Win Over Chambers

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  • FloydTBE
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    #11
    Very boring fight,

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    • Capital Punch
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      #12
      Vitaly is correct, body slams like that should be deductable, altho not that it matters to a guy who didn't win a round. Another great Klitschko performance, and a stunning KO.

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      • Tiozzo
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        #13
        Originally posted by braddman
        You are a fool, I am totally convinced. You are here saying clinching isn't ok but body slamming is, or body slamming = leaning on your opponent.

        You're a ****ing idiot plain and simple, as reflected by your ridiculous karma value.

        Go somewhere else dude, you're annoying.
        Dear Braddman the Klit **** rider,

        Body slamming is not nice, it's not ok, it's not legal, but in this particular case, I think Chambers did the right thing : send a message to Wlad that he wouldn't tolerate being leaned on. I thought it was pretty intelligent (what can you do besides that since the ref can't stop Wlad form doing it, even if he warned him?). Obviously, it was decided in the gym that Chambers would do that. Wlad didn't get it the first time when Chambers lifted him. So he had to make a bigger statement, which was to throw Wlad to the ground. The ref knew what was going on : that's why he didn't take points from Eddie. But Wlad has a hard head : he leaned on Eddie for the rest of the fight anyway, just slightly less.

        But I'm not sure if a Klit **** rider can understand this.

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          #14
          Originally posted by tourlou82
          Dear Braddman the Klit **** rider,

          Body slamming is not nice, it's not ok, it's not legal, but in this particular case, I think Chambers did the right thing : send a message to Wlad that he wouldn't tolerate being leaned on. I thought it was pretty intelligent (what can you do besides that since the ref can't stop Wlad form doing it, even if he warned him?). Obviously, it was decided in the gym that Chambers would do that. Wlad didn't get it the first time when Chambers lifted him. So he had to make a bigger statement, which was to throw Wlad to the ground. The ref knew what was going on : that's why he didn't take points from Eddie. But Wlad has a hard head : he leaned on Eddie for the rest of the fight, just slightly less.

          But I'm not sure if a Klit **** rider can understand this.
          The referee was incompetent. There should have been an investigation after that fight leading to his removal, in all honesty.

          You can call me names all you want, you're the dumb ass with negative karma here. You obviously can't see everyone thinks you're a ****** ****.

          You're not writing a letter, you don't put DEAR at the front, but obviously from your lack of grammar skills you are an uneducated man.

          You just said a man body slamming in boxing did the right thing, because a guy tried to clinch a few times in the fight.

          Way to own yourself.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Capital Punch
            Vitaly is correct, body slams like that should be deductable, altho not that it matters to a guy who didn't win a round. Another great Klitschko performance, and a stunning KO.
            Please read this post below:

            Originally posted by tourlou82
            Dear Braddman the Klit **** rider,
            Body slamming is not nice, it's not ok, it's not legal, but in this particular case, I think Chambers did the right thing .
            I guess the only message sent was from Wlad, saying you didn't hurt me but I knocked you the **** out.

            Too bad tourlou82Fyou. I bet he was crying in his sleep that night.

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              #16
              Originally posted by tourlou82
              I thought it was pretty intelligent
              This, my friend, says everything we need to know about you.

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              • Tiozzo
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                People are sometimes deducted a point for excessive clinching (although it has to be really excessive before that happens), but, AFAIK, never for leaning. Leaning may be technically illegal, and is an ugly tactic, but is not regarded as a punishable offence by any referee in the world, as far as I'm aware. OTOH, body slamming is a point-deductible offence, and repeated body slamming is a disqualification offence.

                When Echols body-slammed Hopkins in retaliation for repeated fouls by Hopkins, Echols had two points deducted and was warned that he'd be disqualified immediately if he did it again.

                It is indeed highly unusual that the referee didn't penalise Chambers for body slamming and especially that he didn't even issue a warning.

                The KO may not have silenced the critics but it certainly greatly reduced the criticism compared with what there would have been if it had gone the distance, especially as it was a highlight-reel KO - Chambers was out cold.

                And much as you may dislike his style, if you were at all objective you would admit that Chambers is a quality opponent who would have been at least a fringe contender in any era, yet he lost every round. Wlad's style may be soporific but it's extremely effective, and he is hugely under-rated by many people who don't like his style. I find him boring to watch too, but the current version of him (much improved in effectiveness during the past few years) would definitely be a very tough fight for any heavyweight in history, and would have beaten some of the ATGs.
                It is because leaning is not a punishable offence that Chambers had to take matters into his own hands.

                I've seen the ref issuing a warning to Chambers when he threw Wlad to the ground. To me, it is obvious the ref didn't penalize Eddie because he knew what was going on : Eddie wanted to make a statement so that Wlad stop leaning on him.

                I agree the ko has reduced the criticism, but real fans don't forget what kind of fight it was before the last seconds of the fight. The ko doesn't erase that.

                The last paragraph is really inaccurate : I thought highly of Chambers, very good fighter, and I've always said Wlad boring style is nevertheless very effective.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by tourlou82
                  It is because leaning is not a punishable offence that Chambers had to take matters into his own hands.

                  I've seen the ref issuing a warning to Chambers when he threw Wlad to the ground. To me, it is obvious the ref didn't penalize Eddie because he knew what was going on : Eddie wanted to make a statement so that Wlad stop leaning on him.
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                  There was no warning issued. Read the article. Watch the video.

                  Admit it, you had a hard on for Chambers thinking he was gonna beat Wlad and when he lost, you were butt hurt, so the body slam is your only comfort right now, thinking somehow that "sent a message" to Wlad.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
                    Very boring fight,
                    The last round wasn't boring at all in my opinion.

                    The KO was sick.

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                    • Tiozzo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by braddman
                      This, my friend, says everything we need to know about you.
                      You're such an idiot, ****** Klit **** rider. Yes, it was intelligent, you can't let a man weighing 245 lbs debilitate your energy leaning on you all night, furthermore if you are 6 1/2 and 209 lbs. Wlad is a big ****** for doing this. Watch all the past greats, you will never see one systematically leaning on his opponent like Wlad does. ***** move.

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