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  • The Troll
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    #21
    Originally posted by ThaGreatest
    DeLaHoya beat Quartey...

    He beat Trinidad...

    and he lost once to Mosley at welterweight...

    not twice
    Trinidad beat more Quality fighters and made more defences than De La Hoya did. And Trinidad beat De La Hoya I am sorry but that is just what you deserve when you run like De la Hoya did. You deserve to lose.

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      #22
      My rankings as of now would be

      1) Judah
      2) Margarito
      3) Mosley
      4) DLH (He hasnt fought there in a while)
      5) Trinidad (see number 4)

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        #23
        Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
        My rankings as of now would be

        1) Judah
        2) Margarito
        3) Mosley
        4) DLH (He hasnt fought there in a while)
        5) Trinidad (see number 4)
        You noted De La Hoya has not been at Welterweight in a while but he is indeed returning to that weight class so it is relevant to rate him. However Trinidad has not fought as a Welterweight since 1999and he is Retired. And Zab Judah will never be 1/6 of the fighter Trinidad was at Welterweight in any fascination. Trinidad never defeated at Welterweight, 17 title defences.

        Zab Judah already defeated by Cory Spinks.

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          #24
          Originally posted by McKay
          Trinidad beat more Quality fighters and made more defences than De La Hoya did. And Trinidad beat De La Hoya I am sorry but that is just what you deserve when you run like De la Hoya did. You deserve to lose.
          Trinidad didn't do **** to win..

          DLH lost himself

          Trinidad couldnt even land **** on him and got outboxed...

          Stop ur biasness and admit it..

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            #25
            Originally posted by McKay
            For what. What makes De La Hoya the greatest. For barely getting past Quartey? For loosing to Trinidad. For loosing twice to Mosely. Is that what makes him the best?
            I realize now...that you merely take the opposition party because you get a kick out of it. I am having second thoughts as to you even watching DLH/Trinidad or DLH/Mosley 2. Because if you did...common sense would tell you the two fights were robberies.

            DLH/Mosley 2 was one of the biggest robberies in the history of the sport. The fight was a fix.



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              #26
              Originally posted by ThaGreatest
              Trinidad didn't do **** to win..

              DLH lost himself

              Trinidad couldnt even land **** on him and got outboxed...

              Stop ur biasness and admit it..
              Why do think I am bias just because I have different opinion than you. I just think prime Trinidad is better than prime De La Hoya and has more accomplishments. And I have given reasons for that. I think they are pretty close but Trinidad just edges him out by a hair.

              Both of them are stratospheres above Judah or Margarito.

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                #27
                Originally posted by McKay
                Why do think I am bias just because I have different opinion than you. I just think prime Trinidad is better than prime De La Hoya and has more accomplishments. And I have given reasons for that. I think they are pretty close but Trinidad just edges him out by a hair.
                My point is Trinidad lost to DLH and u know that...

                You prolly right about Trinidad bein a better welterweight but his win over DLH was a robbery

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  I just think prime Trinidad is better than prime De La Hoya and has more accomplishments. .
                  I dont think so. DLH has beat:

                  Coley
                  Quartey
                  Chavez
                  Gonzales
                  Gatti
                  Leija
                  Paez
                  Molina
                  Ruelas
                  Hernandez
                  Rivera
                  Camacho

                  and the god damn list goes on for one of the best fighters in the history of the welterweight division. I think he is five times the fighter Trinidad is personally.



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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                    I dont think so. DLH has beat:

                    Coley
                    Quartey
                    Chavez
                    Gonzales
                    Gatti
                    Leija
                    Paez
                    Molina
                    Ruelas
                    Hernandez
                    Rivera
                    Camacho

                    and the god damn list goes on for one of the best fighters in the history of the welterweight division. I think he is five times the fighter Trinidad is personally.
                    Oh we doing boxrec files now. I said prime Trinidad is better than prime De La Hoya but only by a hair and I already posted Trinidad's boxrec file.


                    Originally posted by McKay
                    That is ridiculous to rate Zab Judah as all time greater than Felix Trinidad. Did Zab Judah beat Ricardo Mayorga by total destruction, did beat Cherifi by TKO 4,
                    did he beat William Joppy by TKO 5
                    did he beat Vargas by TKO 12
                    did he Thiam by TKO 3
                    did he beat David Reid by UD 12
                    did he beat Oscar De La Hoya by MD
                    did he beat Hugo Peneda in 1999 by KO 4
                    did he beat Pernell Whitaker by UD 12
                    did he beat OBA Carr by TKO 8
                    did he beat Luis Ramon Campos by TKO 4
                    did he beat Hector Camacho by UD 12
                    did he beat Maurice Blocker in 1993 by KO 2

                    No but Trinidad did. Trinidad is easily one of the best Welterweights of all time. Judah is not anywhere near one of hte best Welterweights of all time. Trinidad is just not the fighter now he used to be. Trinidad is better Welterweight all time than De La Hoya or Mosely and way way way way above Judah.

                    And Trinidad obviously when he was in prime could beat slick boxers. As you see he holds wins over Pernell Whitaker, Hector Camacho, David Reid, Oscar De La Hoya. He just is not the fighter he used to be. Trinidad was undefeated as Welterweight.

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                      #30
                      And who did better against Hopkins? Trinidad who was TKO 12. Or De La Hoya who was KO 5?

                      Even though this is off the issue of welterweights all together.

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