Recent Welterweight ranks..

[The Troll]

I got the idea from the great thread of rating MAB, Morales, JMM Pac and Hamed, So i thought out all the welters we have seen recently rank this 5.

Oscar De La Hoya
"Sugar" Shane Mosley
Zab Judah
Felix Trinidad
Antonio Margarito

Just some classic ones and i put Margarito to see what everyone thinks of him.

That is ridiculous to rate Zab Judah as all time greater than Felix Trinidad. Did Zab Judah beat Ricardo Mayorga by total destruction, did beat Cherifi by TKO 4,
did he beat William Joppy by TKO 5
did he beat Vargas by TKO 12
did he Thiam by TKO 3
did he beat David Reid by UD 12
did he beat Oscar De La Hoya by MD
did he beat Hugo Peneda in 1999 by KO 4
did he beat Pernell Whitaker by UD 12
did he beat OBA Carr by TKO 8
did he beat Luis Ramon Campos by TKO 4
did he beat Hector Camacho by UD 12
did he beat Maurice Blocker in 1993 by KO 2

No but Trinidad did. Trinidad is easily one of the best Welterweights of all time. Judah is not anywhere near one of hte best Welterweights of all time. Trinidad is just not the fighter now he used to be. Trinidad is better Welterweight all time than De La Hoya or Mosely and way way way way above Judah.

And Trinidad obviously when he was in prime could beat slick boxers. As you see he holds wins over Pernell Whitaker, Hector Camacho, David Reid, Oscar De La Hoya. He just is not the fighter he used to be. Trinidad was undefeated as Welterweight.

[sisforshaq]

Thats not my list... I was just naming the fighters.. look on the new thread for my list.

[The Troll]

Thats not my list... I was just naming the fighters.. look on the new thread for my list.

Trinidad is not a welterweight unless your talking about him historically. He has not fought at Welterweight since 1999 so he does not really even belong on the list unless your talking about boxing history. Why are you ranking a guy who has not fought at welter since 1999 in the same list as currently active Welterweights.

[Tha Greatest]

All those guys are welterweights with the exception of Trinidad. And Trinidad was of course originally a welterweight and that was his natural weight. He beat Oscar De La Hoya via controversial descision at welterweight and Mosely beat De La Hoya twice at welterweight.

So I think as far as welterweights go De La Hoya,Trinidad and Mosely are even, but Trinidad has the most quality wins at welter despite his recent shorfallings in the middlweight. I might rank Trinidad the highest.

Zab Judah and Antonio Margarito are also equal to me but are below the first 3.

Man, you talk like a damn computer..

[{BrownBomber}]

Trinidad is not a welterweight unless your talking about him historically. He has not fought at Welterweight since 1999 so he does not really even belong on the list unless your talking about boxing history. Why are you ranking a guy who has not fought at welter since 1999 in the same list as currently active Welterweights.

he mayorga at 160, he is welterweight.
Dont know wtf he was doing at 160

[Tha Greatest]

That is ridiculous to rate Zab Judah as all time greater than Felix Trinidad. Did Zab Judah beat Ricardo Mayorga by total destruction, did beat Cherifi by TKO 4,
did he beat William Joppy by TKO 5
did he beat Vargas by TKO 12
did he Thiam by TKO 3
did he beat David Reid by UD 12
did he beat Oscar De La Hoya by MD
did he beat Hugo Peneda in 1999 by KO 4
did he beat Pernell Whitaker by UD 12
did he beat OBA Carr by TKO 8
did he beat Luis Ramon Campos by TKO 4
did he beat Hector Camacho by UD 12
did he beat Maurice Blocker in 1993 by KO 2

No but Trinidad did. Trinidad is easily one of the best Welterweights of all time. Judah is not anywhere near one of hte best Welterweights of all time. Trinidad is just not the fighter now he used to be. Trinidad is better Welterweight all time than De La Hoya or Mosely and way way way way above Judah.

And Trinidad obviously when he was in prime could beat slick boxers. As you see he holds wins over Pernell Whitaker, Hector Camacho, David Reid, Oscar De La Hoya. He just is not the fighter he used to be. Trinidad was undefeated as Welterweight.

The Camacho, DeLaHoya, and Sweat Pea fights shouldnt count cuz they were old as **** and DLH was robbed...

He wasnt undefeated as a welterweight he got ****in whooped by DLH **** man...

Trinidad would get owned by hearns duran leonard robinson basilio etc.

[The Troll]

The Camacho, DeLaHoya, and Sweat Pea fights shouldnt count cuz they were old as **** and DLH was robbed...

He wasnt undefeated as a welterweight he got ****in whooped by DLH **** man...

Trinidad would get owned by hearns duran leonard robinson basilio etc.

Yeah he probably would lose to those guys, and there is no shame in that, he is still the best welterweigh tof the 90's.

[Tha Greatest]

Yeah he probably would lose to those guys, and there is no shame in that, he is still the best welterweigh tof the 90's.

Maybe

but I truly believe Hearns can knock out Trinidad in the 1st round and I can explain why..

[The Troll]

Actually DeLaHoya was

For what. What makes De La Hoya the greatest. For barely getting past Quartey? For loosing to Trinidad. For loosing twice to Mosely. Is that what makes him the best?

[Tha Greatest]

For what. What makes De La Hoya the greatest. For barely getting past Quartey? For loosing to Trinidad. For loosing twice to Mosely. Is that what makes him the best?

DeLaHoya beat Quartey...

He beat Trinidad...

and he lost once to Mosley at welterweight...

not twice