Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Should Beat Mosley, Says Billy Graham

[Pacquiao'd]

This guy is a ****tard. Talking like Floyd is so much above JMM. I think JMM is the P4P better fighter. Just because he lost to a way bigger Floyd in a catch weight fight (where Floyd purposely missed weight by 2lbs) doesn't mean Floyd is the better fighter. JMM is a natural super feather who was still the best a lightweight but above that he is not a top fighter. HOW DO YOU THINK JMM WOULD DO AGAINST MOSLEY, COTTO, PWILL, MARGS AND PAC AT 146???? I think everyone of those guys would knock him the **** out and it is not because they are better fighters (except for Pac) but because they are much bigger guys.

better than who? floyd? put down the crackpipe....hater

[King Ju-Ju]

I gotta say this. Look Pacquiao said he doesn't need Mayweather right. But the truth is. Pacquiao is where he's at today because of Mayweather. Think about it. He blew up after De la Hoya and Hatton. Why? Because everyone compared his wins to Mayweather's wins over the two. They said wow Pacquiao made de la hoya quit and floyd got a split decision. They said wow Pacquiao knocked out Hatton in 2 rounds and it took Floyd 10. That's why he is where he is today. So Pacquiao yes you do need Floyd. But you know you can't beat him so you're already setting up the biggest duck ever!! They fail to realize when oscar fought Floyd it was at 154 in which oscar outweighed Floyd by several pounds on fight night. Where as Manny fought Oscar at 147 and Manny outweighed Oscar in that fight. Oscar came in weak from the weight loss and Manny came in strong. The general public doesn't know this or care to know this. They look at the names and the results thus creating what Manny Pacquiao is today. All Hype!!

Pacquiao was a legit star once he beat got his revenge & beat Erik Morales. That 1 win alone was better then the 1's against Hatton & Oscar. He's what he is 2day because he's a BEAST my dude. Floyd is great. No denying that. People just think he's unbeatable. Just the thought of him losing draws a pulblic outcry, its ridiculous.

[Tweezy316]

To the guy who said that MANNY needs FLOYD Is mistaking. MANNY paved his own way and his wins against HATTON/DE LA HOYA had nothing 2 do with it. MAYWEATHER hasn't had nearly the level of competition that MANNY has faced in the ring. MANNY can retire right now with his LEGACY as an A.T.G. If MAYWEATHER retired today, he would just be considered a H.O.F. And that's the difference MAN.

Say what you want. But it is what it is. Before de la hoya and hatton Manny wasn't half as big as he is now. And that's only because Floyd had fought them 1st. Had floyd never fought them we would of never heard about Pacquiao. And saying Pacquiao has fought better level competition. hahah who? old morales, barrera, marquez who kicked his ass twice and now he is avoiding. Until he becomes a man takes the test and fights Mayweather he's only an all time great for philipines boxers.

[Tweezy316]

Pacquiao was a legit star once he beat got his revenge & beat Erik Morales. That 1 win alone was better then the 1's against Hatton & Oscar. He's what he is 2day because he's a BEAST my dude. Floyd is great. No denying that. People just think he's unbeatable. Just the thought of him losing draws a pulblic outcry, its ridiculous.

Why are you giving Pacquiao so much credit for beating Morales the 2nd and 3rd times. When it was clear that he was finished. Wasn't the 1st fight with Pacquiao the last time he won? Right after that Morales was destroyed by Zahir Raheem. Now Pac could of got respect by facing Raheem and destroying him. But noooo Pac picked the loser and gets credit wtf? At least when Mayweather fought Zab Judah after Zab lost to Baldomir. Mayweather later went on and made Baldomir look like an amateur. So what does Pac do after finishing up Morales? Does he go and get Raheem? NOPE he fights Morales AGAIN!!! WTF? And yet he gets so much respect and credit. This guy has avoided the best fighters for a long time now. Real fans know this.

[Illdil]

A great interview with a humble trainer. Now if only Freddie Roach could humble himself and say why his plan vs Floyd with Oscar didn't work.

I think it was not roach's fault that oscar go wit the plan that was to jab everytime before u throw a punch and after 6,7 rounds he just stopes throwing it and some say floyd took it away by countering over it his own right hand and they say oscar ran out of gas too so yeah but u did see oscar was winning the early rounds against floyd but late stages as usual oscar stars to fade but in no way is this is roach's fault and after all it's oscar is the one that's fighting not roach...oscar is too proud to say that he didn't go wit the game plan for 12 rounds..it was working early in the fight but he strayed away from it later on in the fight..

[the mesiah]

Good fookin read ,I hope they get sum good fights on this undercard , I seen Saul fight Before already so I want see who else is on the card as well,looking forward to the matchup,

[Mr Reality]

Why are you giving Pacquiao so much credit for beating Morales the 2nd and 3rd times. When it was clear that he was finished. Wasn't the 1st fight with Pacquiao the last time he won? Right after that Morales was destroyed by Zahir Raheem. Now Pac could of got respect by facing Raheem and destroying him. But noooo Pac picked the loser and gets credit wtf? At least when Mayweather fought Zab Judah after Zab lost to Baldomir. Mayweather later went on and made Baldomir look like an amateur. So what does Pac do after finishing up Morales? Does he go and get Raheem? NOPE he fights Morales AGAIN!!! WTF? And yet he gets so much respect and credit. This guy has avoided the best fighters for a long time now. Real fans know this.

Pac gets alot of credit for fighting Morales and Barrera, but it is clearly evident to true fight fans that Barerra & Morales were past their prime when they faced Pacquiao. Marquez is the guy that was closer to his peak and he gave Pac a boxing lesson winning over 90 % of the rounds after the first round of fight #1.

[Tweezy316]

I think it was not roach's fault that oscar go wit the plan that was to jab everytime before u throw a punch and after 6,7 rounds he just stopes throwing it and some say floyd took it away by countering over it his own right hand and they say oscar ran out of gas too so yeah but u did see oscar was winning the early rounds against floyd but late stages as usual oscar stars to fade but in no way is this is roach's fault and after all it's oscar is the one that's fighting not roach...oscar is too proud to say that he didn't go wit the game plan for 12 rounds..it was working early in the fight but he strayed away from it later on in the fight..

Stop saying Oscar gassed out. It's Roach's job to train Oscar and make sure he has stamina for 12 rounds. How was it working earlier in the fight? He landed what 20% and you call that working? Floyd won round 1 did he not? Oscar won a total of 4 rounds including the 12th. So that only leaves 3 rounds he could of won early. So don't act like Oscar won the 1st 6, 7 rounds with the jab cause it's just not true. He was dominated the whole fight. All he did was flurry at the end of rounds and made the crowd scream as if he was doing something. But compubox proves he wasn't landing!!!

[Illdil]

I gotta say this. Look Pacquiao said he doesn't need Mayweather right. But the truth is. Pacquiao is where he's at today because of Mayweather. Think about it. He blew up after De la Hoya and Hatton. Why? Because everyone compared his wins to Mayweather's wins over the two. They said wow Pacquiao made de la hoya quit and floyd got a split decision. They said wow Pacquiao knocked out Hatton in 2 rounds and it took Floyd 10. That's why he is where he is today. So Pacquiao yes you do need Floyd. But you know you can't beat him so you're already setting up the biggest duck ever!! They fail to realize when oscar fought Floyd it was at 154 in which oscar outweighed Floyd by several pounds on fight night. Where as Manny fought Oscar at 147 and Manny outweighed Oscar in that fight. Oscar came in weak from the weight loss and Manny came in strong. The general public doesn't know this or care to know this. They look at the names and the results thus creating what Manny Pacquiao is today. All Hype!!

Dude floyd fighting oscar at 154 is correct but PAC had to come up from 135 to 147 just like that!!! Dude that 2 weight classes if he had to go up to 154 that's just ridiculous And before he was fighting at 135 he was fighting at 125 dude just think about the weight u have to put on and still maintain your skill in the ring..u talk like he's a natural WW and told oscar to come down to 147??..and as oscar being weight drained I think he was too cuz he had to cut down like 10 or 15 pounds but oscar is a money greedy ass that he didn't care whether he won or not..to b honest I really don't give a F**** about that oscar fight it was a worthless fight cuz osacr should have retired a long time ago..but don't discreat PAC's other fights he has won it's jsut not fair and to say he's all hype u gota b smokeing somthing real real good!! And u know what u should hook me up wit it

[jbpanama]

For the past few months on my days off, up until the Clottey fight. I have watched every Floyd fight from 00-10. I tried for Pac but couldn't find them all ..... Came close to bout 80 % of his fights..... All you guys have to be utterly ****ing brain dead or blind.... Bc pac and floyd are no where near on the same level wtf....

lets break down Pac fight skills..... Superb power in both hands, fast ,punching from all angles..... Ok what else, absolutely nothing else..... Things all good boxers (not fighters) need.... A good fight stance Pac has never even learned correct fighting positioning ..... This guy foot work consist of getting in and out up and back... Have you ever wonder why he's battered every effin fight... With all that so called speed he couldn't side step a punch to save his life.... Now to this world renowned punches and bunches BS..... Pac throws straight rights and lefts, full extend from mid section high, hunched back outwards like igor lol....With every thing from neck up fully exposed(which for counter punchers i.e. Marguez Mayweather hell at times even Clottey, it's like shooting fish in a barrel with a target so big.)


Now to the worst thing that Pac does with his beloved combos... Watch the tapes... When he throws his combos he never has one anchor foot down lol amateurish.... he jumps up in the air, off both feet just asking to be countered with straight rights and left hooks.... Then completely flat foot once again firing away in that Igor stance, what happens next he is so planted plus with the ability to not side step , eats uppercut after uppercut.... Pac is a great fighter with, a great team..... Pacs success at the higher weights are fairly obvious he was faster then all the WW's he fought so he doesn't get caught as much, like when he was fighting the little fast guys....


Now to floyd defense that is only dreamed about .... Foot work like A well oiled machine. The ability to fight going forwards backwards, even fights and defends his best on the ROPES. Honestly Floyd doesn't have hand power but what he does have is core strength... I watched all the fights once again... Floyd has been the smaller guy in 90 % of his fights ....With that being said, he man handles and dictates the fight to the bigger guys...Tying them up pushing them wrestling them into frustration and exhaustion.... what do they all say after the fights (I didnt know he was that strong) .... after floyd beat these guys to have them bowing down to his greatness.... The all look like deer in the head lights after losing ( ko tko stoppage or ud) he didnt hurt me i just couldn't see the shots, i had him tho....


This is what i see in a Pac-Floyd fight ..... Pac comes out hot as a 2 dollar pistol... Swing away at floyd, Floyd taste pac power and see that he is the real deal.... From that point on floyd will know that Pac can ko him.... So mostly like Floyd will start to smoother him like he did, Hatton DLH Judah Ndou Gatti Corrales Castillo Etc..... Tying them up making them support his in their weight for 4 for rounds or so letting them fight him with his back to the ropes missing nearly every punch fired (watch the tapes).....


What happens next they either lose a step or get frustrated .... Depend on what round this happens if you lose you cool before the start of the 3 round your getting stopped (watch the tapes) after 5or 6 he'll just slip and duck you all night and go for the ud bc he is so confident he call when all the late rounds (watch the tapes)... With watching these tapes there is a clear cut decision and its either Floyd by stoppage or an easy UD, Manny will dictate which one tho....


only chances manyy has is to catch Floyd like Hatton ..... B4real now, Roach and Arum know this they been in the game for along time.....

say wtf you want go (WATCH THE ****ING TAPES) and don't try to rewrite history......

Interesting!!!...Have U asked yourself WHY???
the UNDESPUTED MASTER of AVOIDANCE PUNKED OUT
with the testing nonsence???

As the author points out, PBF knows how not to lose!!!
Thats why he has CHERRY PICKED Over the Hill and
UNDERSIZED opponents the past 8 yrs!!!!!

and definately why the GREAT CRUSADER wanted no part
of PacMans SPEED and POWER!!!