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Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View PostFloyd Mayweather faces WBA ‘super’ welterweight title holder Shane Mosley at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas on May the 1st in what promises to be the ultimate all-American pound-for-pound showdown. [Click Here To Read More]respect to BG.....I disagree with his prediciton but he made some REAL valid respectable points!!
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I gotta say this. Look Pacquiao said he doesn't need Mayweather right. But the truth is. Pacquiao is where he's at today because of Mayweather. Think about it. He blew up after De la Hoya and Hatton. Why? Because everyone compared his wins to Mayweather's wins over the two. They said wow Pacquiao made de la hoya quit and floyd got a split decision. They said wow Pacquiao knocked out Hatton in 2 rounds and it took Floyd 10. That's why he is where he is today. So Pacquiao yes you do need Floyd. But you know you can't beat him so you're already setting up the biggest duck ever!! They fail to realize when oscar fought Floyd it was at 154 in which oscar outweighed Floyd by several pounds on fight night. Where as Manny fought Oscar at 147 and Manny outweighed Oscar in that fight. Oscar came in weak from the weight loss and Manny came in strong. The general public doesn't know this or care to know this. They look at the names and the results thus creating what Manny Pacquiao is today. All Hype!!
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I think it will be a great fight. I think a lot of people are underestimating Shane thinking that Mayweather will shut him out. I give Shane a good chance to win. He'e not fighting two weight classes higher than his normal weight like Marquez, he's not one dimensional and overly agressive like Hatton was, and he is still a hungry full time fighter unlike De La Hoya was. I think if Mayweather wins it will be by close desicion.
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This guy is a ****tard. Talking like Floyd is so much above JMM. I think JMM is the P4P better fighter. Just because he lost to a way bigger Floyd in a catch weight fight (where Floyd purposely missed weight by 2lbs) doesn't mean Floyd is the better fighter. JMM is a natural super feather who was still the best a lightweight but above that he is not a top fighter. HOW DO YOU THINK JMM WOULD DO AGAINST MOSLEY, COTTO, PWILL, MARGS AND PAC AT 146???? I think everyone of those guys would knock him the **** out and it is not because they are better fighters (except for Pac) but because they are much bigger guys.
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Originally posted by b4real View PostWhoa ***. i never said Pac is a bum,or not a great fighter..... Im just saying what i saw in the tapes.... Like i said Pac is not getting caught at the higher weights..... For 1 reason alone speed... Floyd will trap him like i trap cougars in bars lol..... That speed want work on Floyd he'll rush in get tied up like a girl at Roman Polanski house haha... Every time like Hatton did.... So what will be the outcome? I'll help theres 3. Turn up the heat like Corrales and attack him and get pick a part on the outside... Well he cant try to take the inside and fight him on the ropes like Hatton and get caught trying to exchange...... you seen what happen in those fights or learn how to box in 5 months...... Better yet let him swing for mother in country, so he can end up being taking care of by his mom in his country game set match *****......
I Do agree with seeing only 1 way PAC can win over PBF...and many ways PBF can win over PAC...IMO the ODDS would favor PBF.
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Originally posted by b4real View PostFor the past few months on my days off, up until the Clottey fight. I have watched every Floyd fight from 00-10. I tried for Pac but couldn't find them all ..... Came close to bout 80 % of his fights..... All you guys have to be utterly ****ing brain dead or blind.... Bc pac and floyd are no where near on the same level wtf....
lets break down Pac fight skills..... Superb power in both hands, fast ,punching from all angles..... Ok what else, absolutely nothing else..... Things all good boxers (not fighters) need.... A good fight stance Pac has never even learned correct fighting positioning ..... This guy foot work consist of getting in and out up and back... Have you ever wonder why he's battered every effin fight... With all that so called speed he couldn't side step a punch to save his life.... Now to this world renowned punches and bunches BS..... Pac throws straight rights and lefts, full extend from mid section high, hunched back outwards like igor lol....With every thing from neck up fully exposed(which for counter punchers i.e. Marguez Mayweather hell at times even Clottey, it's like shooting fish in a barrel with a target so big.)
Now to the worst thing that Pac does with his beloved combos... Watch the tapes... When he throws his combos he never has one anchor foot down lol amateurish.... he jumps up in the air, off both feet just asking to be countered with straight rights and left hooks.... Then completely flat foot once again firing away in that Igor stance, what happens next he is so planted plus with the ability to not side step , eats uppercut after uppercut.... Pac is a great fighter with, a great team..... Pacs success at the higher weights are fairly obvious he was faster then all the WW's he fought so he doesn't get caught as much, like when he was fighting the little fast guys....
Now to floyd defense that is only dreamed about .... Foot work like A well oiled machine. The ability to fight going forwards backwards, even fights and defends his best on the ROPES. Honestly Floyd doesn't have hand power but what he does have is core strength... I watched all the fights once again... Floyd has been the smaller guy in 90 % of his fights ....With that being said, he man handles and dictates the fight to the bigger guys...Tying them up pushing them wrestling them into frustration and exhaustion.... what do they all say after the fights (I didnt know he was that strong) .... after floyd beat these guys to have them bowing down to his greatness.... The all look like deer in the head lights after losing ( ko tko stoppage or ud) he didnt hurt me i just couldn't see the shots, i had him tho....
This is what i see in a Pac-Floyd fight ..... Pac comes out hot as a 2 dollar pistol... Swing away at floyd, Floyd taste pac power and see that he is the real deal.... From that point on floyd will know that Pac can ko him.... So mostly like Floyd will start to smoother him like he did, Hatton DLH Judah Ndou Gatti Corrales Castillo Etc..... Tying them up making them support his in their weight for 4 for rounds or so letting them fight him with his back to the ropes missing nearly every punch fired (watch the tapes).....
What happens next they either lose a step or get frustrated .... Depend on what round this happens if you lose you cool before the start of the 3 round your getting stopped (watch the tapes) after 5or 6 he'll just slip and duck you all night and go for the ud bc he is so confident he call when all the late rounds (watch the tapes)... With watching these tapes there is a clear cut decision and its either Floyd by stoppage or an easy UD, Manny will dictate which one tho....
only chances manyy has is to catch Floyd like Hatton ..... B4real now, Roach and Arum know this they been in the game for along time.....
say wtf you want go (WATCH THE ****ING TAPES) and don't try to rewrite history......
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W8 a minute.......
To the guy who said that MANNY needs FLOYD Is mistaking. MANNY paved his own way and his wins against HATTON/DE LA HOYA had nothing 2 do with it. MAYWEATHER hasn't had nearly the level of competition that MANNY has faced in the ring. MANNY can retire right now with his LEGACY as an A.T.G. If MAYWEATHER retired today, he would just be considered a H.O.F. And that's the difference MAN.
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