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  • Phirsole
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    #21
    Originally posted by braddman
    You know nothing about boxing if you believe Povetkin is even remotely a threat. The only thread Haye has is a possible lucky punch before he gets knocked the **** out.

    Go back to being Haye's manager and stop posting on the internet.
    Both Haye and Povetkin know they are not up to the job. Povetkin delays the mandatory fight since 2008, and Haye successfully dodged two Klitschko fights in 2009. In this regard, actions (or lack thereof) speaks volumes.

    Nonetheless, both would be tasty morsels for Wlad's resummee.

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    • Ravens Fan
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      #22
      Originally posted by timba1988
      Wlad fight - Setanta goes bust = Haye doesn't get paid. Klitschko tied him into a slave contract.

      Vitali fight - Klitschko tried to tie him into a slave contract, a much better deal came along.

      Haye vs Klitschko will happen. Haye is desperate for it to happen. But Haye is a big name and deserves a good contract. When Wlad and Vitali realise that Haye will be the biggest payday of their careers, they might offer him an improved deal and get the fight made. Until then...
      I am just curious how you know what was in the contract? Did you see it or have you read it, or are you just going but what Haye says? Because we all know how reliable Haye's word is. Well really I should have added an "un" somewhere in that sentence.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Phirsole
        Both Haye and Povetkin know they are not up to the job. Povetkin delays the mandatory fight since 2008, and Haye successfully dodged two Klitschko fights in 2009. In this regard, actions (or lack thereof) speaks volumes.

        Nonetheless, both would be tasty morsels for Wlad's resummee.
        Makes you wonder how long Povetkin can be a mandatory and not fight. He's only going downhill with Atlas anyway, that was a bad career choice.

        As for Haye, well his loudmouth fans can talk **** until they turn blue, and he still hasn't done anything and won't, so I'm ignoring them from now on.

        Check out my thread about Valuev and the rematch clause.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Ravens Fan
          I am just curious how you know what was in the contract? Did you see it or have you read it, or are you just going but what Haye says? Because we all know how reliable Haye's word is. Well really I should have added an "un" somewhere in that sentence.
          His funniest statement.

          "Haye is desperate for it to happen."

          Like he knows Haye personally.

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            #25
            Originally posted by dmarlay
            Wait, hold up... Steward's coaching legacy has long been established, long before Wlad ever turned pro. He got in the HOF a long time ago, and his coaching Wlad is just more icing on a hearty cake. Steward might be remembered as Wlad's coach, but really, his legacy is from training the Kronk gym fighters, and most especially Thomas Hearns. I think Steward will be remembered more for being Lennox Lewis's trainer than Wlad's.
            Of course. I meant his legacy of coaching Wladimir. I already know Steward has coached some of boxing best. His legacy is already cemented, although his legacy of coaching Wladimir isn't.

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              #26
              Originally posted by braddman
              His funniest statement.

              "Haye is desperate for it to happen."

              Like he knows Haye personally.
              Haye has stated numerous times he is desperate for the fight to happen. He chased Wlad up an elavator to confront him and demand a match between them. It's just a shame promotion and contractual demands have got in the way of making a fight thus far.

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              • Tiozzo
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                #27
                Originally posted by timba1988
                Steward is mad because he realises that Haye and Povetkin are the only genuine threats to Wlad in the HW division. If Wlad fought and beat these fighters he would at least have some sort of career defining wins. In a sense Steward's coaching legacy is dependent on Wlad's success. I'm sure Steward doesn't want to be remembered as the trainer of a heavyweight who was never really been tested or threatened by other elite fighters.

                Wlad is a great heavyweight with a good resume, but he could easily have an excellent resume if he adds dominating wins over Haye and Povetkin to the list.
                Povetkin doesn't add much to the resume of Wlad. He's just an inexperienced boxer who doesn't stand much of a chance.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                  I am just curious how you know what was in the contract? Did you see it or have you read it, or are you just going but what Haye says? Because we all know how reliable Haye's word is. Well really I should have added an "un" somewhere in that sentence.
                  Numerous media reports. Haye's statements. K2 promotions statements.

                  It can't all be taken as gospel, but is's pretty clear Haye wasn't given a very good contract.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tourlou82
                    Povetkin doesn't add much to the resume of Wlad. He's just an inexperienced boxer who doesn't stand much of a chance.
                    I haven't really seen much of Povetkin. But a lot of people on this site regard him as some kind of world beater, so I just went with the flow.

                    I guess only Haye has a real, decent shot as dethroning the Klitschko's.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by timba1988
                      I haven't really seen much of Povetkin. But a lot of people on this site regard him as some kind of world beater, so I just went with the flow.

                      I guess only Haye has a real, decent shot as dethroning the Klitschko's.
                      Yeah, Povetkin is overated. He still fights like an amateur, and he's fairly easy to hit. He has good combinations, but not much power. He's just a sitting duck for a guy like Wlad.

                      No doubt, his so called injury happened at the very right time when he was scheduled to fight Wlad...

                      People dislike Haye, but he really is the sole threat, maybe besides an upcoming Solis.

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