Title Defenses: W. Klitschko 13 Lennox Lewis 12

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Not only that but we are talking about a 37 year old version of Holyfield who had already been through multiple wars in the ring. Lewis didn't beat the "prime" Evander Holyfield. Lewis was the younger and fresher fighter just as Wlad would be.

The Holyfield that Lewis beat went on to go 1-1-1 in 3 fights with John Ruiz as well so I again don't see him beating the current version of Klit at that point in his career.

He said any version of Holyfield "cant touch" Wlad....lol

[Boxing Scene]

No jokes, the holyfield lewis beat could beat anyone on Wlads resume.

You have ZERO boxing knowledge. Holyfield was already SHOT by the time he fought Lewis and EVERYONE ****ing know it, or he would have beat Lewis easily. Prime Holyfield > Prime Lewis any day of the week.

[COYS]

lewis would beat wlad just like he did his vitali

[Mikhnienko]

Frank Bruno------Derrick Jefferson
Phil Jackson-------Hasim Rahman
Akinwande -------Ray Austin
Andre Golota -----Lamon Breswster
Shanno Briggs---Tony Thompson
Zeljko Mavrovic---Calvin Brock
Holyfield----------Ruslan Chagaev
Francois Botha----Francois Botha
Michael Grant ----Jameel McCline
David Tua --------Eddie Chambers
Mike Tyson-------Sultan Ibragimov
Vitali Klitschko ----Ray Mercer
--------------------- Charles Shufford


Aside from Vitali, all the others matched up vs eachother are not all that incompatable.

Looking at both Lewis and Wlad list. Lewis list 10x more impressive than Wlad list.

Give me a break man. Lennox definitely has an edge at this point, no doubt, but they're not far off.

Wlad's recent resume ahs decent names, but they aren't guys with big punches.

Jefferson, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Mercer, Brewster, Rahman, Thompson are all good punchers.

What number of guys in Wlad's resume beats Tua?

I agree Lewis has a superior resume.

Byrd did and i'm sure Eddie Chambers would be able to. Ibragimov, Chagaev would imo

Thompson, Brewster, Mccline would have a good shot.

I understand that we can't really say one will beat the other on that, but I do feel that Lewis was big enough to handle Wlad's size.

I feel Lewis ni his prime was more athletic than Wlad which is a very good compliment.

Wlad has the power, but throws less. His jab is better, but Lewis was world class also.

Lewis had power that you had to respect, and that's why I feel Wlad's effectiveness or atleast workrate would be a lot lower.

Lewis also fought some good guys and that shows me he is a very good quality fighter.

Both won the olympic gold and have dteward so that's quite funny how they kinda match up lol. Both use the jab, box smartly, quite big etc...

Also I believe that Lewis in his prime would have had Vitali, and I feel Vitali beats Wlad. Although triangle theories don't always work

Still, for me, a green Lewis beats a green wlad 100%. a prime Lewis beats a priME wLAD BUT IT WILL BE CLOSE

Keep in mind that it took Lennox 2 tries before he won Gold, he lost in '84 and Cuba & Soviets weren't even involved in those games.

All fair points, i favour Lennox too in a prime h2h matchup but it's close. I just think its ridiculous when people act like a comparison is unreasonable.

You make some fair points, though Lewis did get KO by average fighters. It just happens that not all boxers have granite chins.

I think though it would be best to evaluate Wlad's career after his career run is over. Right now he has had 9 consecutive defenses in a row, which is a very decent number.

I think there is a good list of opponents in from of him -- Povetkin, Haye, Solis, Arreola, rematch with Peter, and possibly Adamek. Wlad has a potential to make his career list truly great.

Yup, if politics doesn't get in the way and he fights and beats

Povetkin
Haye
Arreola
maybe
Solis
Peter
Adamek
Valuev
and a good newcomer like Pulev or Helenius at the end of his career he would have an extremely solid resume.

[Hitman932]

Frank Bruno------Derrick Jefferson
Phil Jackson-------Hasim Rahman
Akinwande -------Ray Austin
Andre Golota -----Lamon Breswster
Shanno Briggs---Tony Thompson
Zeljko Mavrovic---Calvin Brock
Holyfield----------Ruslan Chagaev
Francois Botha----Francois Botha
Michael Grant ----Jameel McCline
David Tua --------Eddie Chambers
Mike Tyson-------Sultan Ibragimov
Vitali Klitschko ----Ray Mercer
--------------------- Charles Shufford


Aside from Vitali, all the others matched up vs eachother are not all that incompatable.




Give me a break man. Lennox definitely has an edge at this point, no doubt, but they're not far off.

I agree on the matchups, I thought of putting them side by side like that and I think it shows how little difference there is between the two resumes.

I also agree Lewis has the slight edge at this point but see it as being inevitable that Wlad pretty much matches or exceeds all of Lewis' most noteworthy accomplishments before he retires.

[Pirao]

Lewis' best win is Holyfield. That version of Holyfield would beat anyone on Wladimir's resume.

Also, who on Wladimir's resume could beat prime versions of Tua and Vitali?

Byrd beat both.

[Phirsole]

People were critical of Lewis and his style in his later years. The opinion of him rose greatly after he retired and people saw the lack of other genuine talent.

Likewise when the Klitschkos are gone people are going to see how truly talented they were in the years that follow.

+1. I assume they'll leave a huge gap if they retire. But at least the ABC belt fights will be more competitive, then.

[Hitman932]

+1. I assume they'll leave a huge gap if they retire. But at least the ABC belt fights will be more competitive, then.

At the same time without them there would probably be 4 champions and none of them would be interested in fighting each other. Likely none of them would be able to make more than 3 defenses without losing either.

[Mikhnienko]

At the same time without them there would probably be 4 champions and none of them would be interested in fighting each other. Likely none of them would be able to make more than 3 defenses without losing either.

If neither Klitschko were around then Brock, Chambers, Arreola, Thompson, Quezada, Ruiz, Quezada would all be fighting eachother for belts via American control and their media & fans would talk about how deep the division is.

Maybe Povetkin, Adamek, Chagaev would be in the mix but more likely is they'd be fighting eachother in Europe, shut out of the US picture, and called 'Euro level' guys

[the niggest]

Lewis has a slightly better resume... But if Wlad beats Povetkin and Haye and then maybe someone like Arreolla aswell then I would say that Wlad surpasses Lewis in resume.