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  • #11
    Originally posted by amayseng
    too big..

    think about it, we ***** and complain and make arguements about say for example, jmm moving up and facing floyd jr giving up 12 lbs...

    now look at heavyweights who give up 20,30,40 lbs...

    how is this fair????

    why not seperate heavyweight and like superheavyweight 230 and above or something

    how can it be fair a guy weighs 210 and fights a guy at 245?
    I think I caught you dropping this one bro

    HW have always been like that. Tyson with his size were dropping big guys left and right. No excuses right. Chambers wasn't good enough like any other HW in the world. Klitscko's are the dominant power in boxing.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by amayseng
      too big..

      think about it, we ***** and complain and make arguements about say for example, jmm moving up and facing floyd jr giving up 12 lbs...

      now look at heavyweights who give up 20,30,40 lbs...

      how is this fair????

      why not seperate heavyweight and like superheavyweight 230 and above or something

      how can it be fair a guy weighs 210 and fights a guy at 245?
      in the heavyweight division, being heavy doesn't meant you could punch so hard and be as fast as the rest cuz that is almost the limit for a normal human body. Look at tyson. he has speed and power and he was small as hell for the heavyweight division. Unlike the lower weight divisions, power is the only difference, but theyre as fast as each other depending on who their opponent is. JMM was not a fast fighter to begin with, but his punching power was from good to fluff, and he was even slower when he moved up to ww to face money may; who is 1 of the fastest fighter in the history of this sport. Today in the heavyweight division. only david haye has the speed, but i dont know about his power. They lack the raw talent of the heavyweights of the past and that is why no one can beat the klitsch. george foreman or was it holyfield that said this.
      Last edited by BadBrains; 03-20-2010, 08:18 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by amayseng
        too big..

        think about it, we ***** and complain and make arguements about say for example, jmm moving up and facing floyd jr giving up 12 lbs...

        now look at heavyweights who give up 20,30,40 lbs...

        how is this fair????

        why not seperate heavyweight and like superheavyweight 230 and above or something

        how can it be fair a guy weighs 210 and fights a guy at 245?
        Size difference at HW doesn't matter like it does at lower weights. The higher you go the less of an issue it is.

        126-130 those four pounds make more of a difference than 160-168, higher you go less it means and at 200+ lbs heavier can actually be deteremental. It isn't bad for Klitschko or Lewis because they're the exceptions to the rule and retain top handspeed to go along with the size, very few do.

        Size to strength ratio.

        If you watch boxing it's kind of hard to believe that you don't understand this already.

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        • #14
          Chambers had no power, and on top of that didn't throw much at all. Yet even then it still took Klit 12 rounds to get him out of there.

          It's a painfully boring division to watch these days.

          And I don't think there is anyone on the horizon that has a chance to end this misery...Povetkin won't do it and Haye is all talk no action.

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          • #15
            If thats the case why the hell did Wlad fight so cautiously for the whole fight

            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            And I don't think there is anyone on the horizon that has a chance to end this misery...Povetkin won't do it and Haye is all talk no action.
            At least Haye has some promise, he is undoubtedly one of, if not the quickest HW, and also has some serious ****ing power.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Chip2006uk View Post
              At least Haye has some promise, he is undoubtedly one of, if not the quickest HW, and also has some serious ****ing power.
              He fought scared and ran against Valuev, something tells me he'd do the same against the Klits.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Grand Champ View Post
                I think I caught you dropping this one bro

                HW have always been like that. Tyson with his size were dropping big guys left and right. No excuses right. Chambers wasn't good enough like any other HW in the world. Klitscko's are the dominant power in boxing.

                Tyson was one of a kind for what the last 40 years.?

                this is not about chambers particularly.

                wlad is 6'5 and 245, with that tremendous reach it makes it difficult let alone the weight of additional power......and that height allows a person to put on that weight... floyd cant fight a 6'4 opponent at WW, because natural anatomy doesnt allow it. let alone someone 35 lbs heavier..

                i just brought up the discussion,

                if i dropped something bring it to me in person

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Mikhnienko View Post
                  Size difference at HW doesn't matter like it does at lower weights. The higher you go the less of an issue it is.

                  126-130 those four pounds make more of a difference than 160-168, higher you go less it means and at 200+ lbs heavier can actually be deteremental. It isn't bad for Klitschko or Lewis because they're the exceptions to the rule and retain top handspeed to go along with the size, very few do.

                  Size to strength ratio.

                  If you watch boxing it's kind of hard to believe that you don't understand this already.
                  I think i may know a little being a physical therapist and spending 6 years studying anatomy and physiology, let alone boxing since i was 10 for 21 years now.

                  the higher you go the less of an issue it is? primarily yes, but not always. you think if wlad was fighting only guys within 6 lbs of his weight he would be such a devestating force?


                  dude you contradicted yourself, you said the higher you go the less it means but then said it is detrimental???

                  i guess i dont know this already and its hard for you to believe

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3 View Post
                    the only way the klits will be challenged is if they fight each other. i dont think any other HW and beat them
                    People don't seem to realize this, but it hurts the HW division a whole lot that its best 2 fighters are brothers who just won't face each other. They are just happy to split between themselves the little contenders they actually have. Now they're even arguing, ''oh let me fight Haye first, no me, I want him'', this is just ridiculous. This brotherhood thing really gets annoying. They always talk about having all the belts in the family, keeping them in the family, but boxing isn't a ****ing team or family sport, every fighter should actually be looking to be the best, not share the ****ing spot with some brother. When it comes down to fighting and legacy, it's an individuals sport. They should forget about their mummy and fight each other, period.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by amayseng
                      too big..

                      think about it, we ***** and complain and make arguements about say for example, jmm moving up and facing floyd jr giving up 12 lbs...

                      now look at heavyweights who give up 20,30,40 lbs...

                      how is this fair????

                      why not seperate heavyweight and like superheavyweight 230 and above or something

                      how can it be fair a guy weighs 210 and fights a guy at 245?
                      it's called diminishing returns dumbass. at a certain point weight starts to become more of a burden and not an advantage due to the hinderances that it puts on human mobility and stamina. i.e. humans simply not being built for certain weights over 200 to maximize their speed/efficiency/stamina. this is why heavyweight is a free for all because in heavyweight class, being 240lbs is not necessarily an advantage over a 215lbs guy just look at Tyson KTFO'ing everything in his path even guys that outweigh him by 50-100lbs

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