Comments Thread For: Klitschko Says Chambers Was Fast, But Had No Power

[Boxingwizard]

If Chambers has no power than how come Klitschko didn't want to engage with Chambers? Klitschko at his absolute best made sure Chambers didn't get within punching range or be able to land a clean punch.

Wladimir allowed Byrd to land punches on him, but he wouldn't allow Chambers? Even Emmanuel Steward said that Chambers bullied Dimitrenko and Povetkin (for 1/4 of the fight) despite his small size. If Chambers can bully an opponent, he has some pop in punches.

[Phirsole]

Eddie Chambers showed heart. He almost went the distance, and he time and again tried to get inside. If he could have managed that, he could have busted Wlad pretty good.

Wlad simply answered by leaning on Eddie, and used his height advantage.

If Eddie were 6'6'', this fight would have beed competitive. The skill was there.

[Mikhnienko]

I think i may know a little being a physical therapist and spending 6 years studying anatomy and physiology, let alone boxing since i was 10 for 21 years now.

the higher you go the less of an issue it is? primarily yes, but not always. you think if wlad was fighting only guys within 6 lbs of his weight he would be such a devestating force?


dude you contradicted yourself, you said the higher you go the less it means but then said it is detrimental???

i guess i dont know this already and its hard for you to believe

The higher you go the less it means, yes. Now at HW diminishing returns comes into effect as the poster underneath mentioned. Your inability to understand what i said stems from your lack of reading comprehension, shame that your amazing education couldn't improve yours.

My remark about increase in weight pertained to HW's putting on size if it didn't suit them like

Chambers at 230 vs Chambers at 210
Adamek at 205 vs Adamek at 220

If they don't have the frame to carry the weight it's detremental to their speed which takes away from punching power and their conditioning.

The ideal size for HW's, especially punching power, is around 190-220 when looking at history.

Dempsey
Louis
Marciano
Ali
Frazier
Foreman
Tyson
Shavers

Those are some of the hardest punchers in the history of the division and all fall into that general range.

Klitschko Lewis Bowe are exeptions to the rule who are heavier than that but retain their hanspeed & power and are naturally coordinated and exceptionally gifted

Guys like:
Buddy Baer
Ernie Terrell
Ustinov
Dimitrenko
Valuev

are big but not athletic and coordinated enough. Exeptions to the rule on the other end of the spectrum are Bob Fitz and Stanley Ketchel in terms of punching power.

My point was that punching power doesn't equal weight, aside from a few exeptions like Klitschko, and that size alone doesn't mean much without being exeptionally skilled. (Dimitrenko Chambers)

Your bitching about guys not being in Klitschko's weight range doesn't mean anything (Thompson, Mccline, Jefferson) What you're asking for is a SHW like Lennox for him to fight against which is foolish since not even half a dozen have ever graced the top of the pro ranks in the history of boxing, it's like asking for a unicorn.

it's called diminishing returns dumbass. at a certain point weight starts to become more of a burden and not an advantage due to the hinderances that it puts on human mobility and stamina. i.e. humans simply not being built for certain weights over 200 to maximize their speed/efficiency/stamina. this is why heavyweight is a free for all because in heavyweight class, being 240lbs is not necessarily an advantage over a 215lbs guy just look at Tyson KTFO'ing everything in his path even guys that outweigh him by 50-100lbs

This was a good example of what i mentioned before and addressed above.

dumbass? im a dumbass for starting a discussion?

so wlad at 6'5 and 245 at prob 7% body fat, athletic, quick, agile and weighing prob 35 lbs heavier than his opponent is "detrimental"?

weight is not a burden in this case?

god bless ya for trying.

Of course Chambers is at a disadvantage due to his size vs Klitschko but it didn't help big guys like Mccline or Thompson either cuz they aren't as gifted.

If you're saying "well if Eddie was 6'5 it would be a different story" then i could 'play imaginary' and say that if Volodymyr Klitschko had Vitali's chin, Dempsey's ferocity, and Tunney's boxing smarts he'd beat any HW ever, just like Chambers might have beat Klitschko if they were the same size.

Lennox is 6'5, Klitschko 6'6, Ali 6'3, the Parthenon was built by Greeks, America first on the moon and that's life.
Now just be glad that you're a Physiotherapist, look forward to the handjob that you will get to give some Japanese businessman tomorrow and quite crying.

[Roger Yomama]

WHy the **** would he do that dude? Seriously he won every round! God people are dumb.

You don't recognise sarcasm then princess? I was just joining in the recent trend of making ridiculous statements!