Clottey did the right thing in the PacMan fight

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  • BMWM3P
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    #11
    Clottey got what he wanted a good payday. He fought like a ***** and now is on the back on list of fighters that no one wants to watch.

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      #12
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Agreed. However, the implication that he's from "Africa" (what country is that??) and that "When african fighters get to a stage like this they alway lack motivation because the money they are making on that fight would set them up for life back in africa" is utterly absurd.

      To me its not absurd, Some african fighters do lack motivation after making a very good payday, Have seen it with sam peters,Ike quartey in the last 15 years like i said previous in my post. Not saying all african fighters are like that espcially the old school ones but the last few times some african boxer become more relax and lack motivation to me....You just watch Ali funeka in a few more years.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Ray*

        To me its not absurd, Some african fighters do lack motivation after making a very good payday, Have seen it with sam peters,Ike quartey in the last 15 years like i said previous in my post. Not saying all african fighters are like that espcially the old school ones but the last few times some african boxer become more relax and lack motivation to me....You just watch Ali funeka in a few more years.
        Some African fighters lack motivation? I think you can apply that to every...continent? Some European fighters lack motivation. Some North American fighters lack motivation...etc. You're talking as if Africa is a country. It's not. Ike Quartey and Sam Peter have nothing in common besides being Black. Horrible.

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          #14
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Some African fighters lack motivation? I think you can apply that to every...continent? Some European fighters lack motivation. Some North American fighters lack motivation...etc. You're talking as if Africa is a country. It's not. Ike Quartey and Sam Peter have nothing in common besides being Black. Horrible.
          ^^^ Cosign.

          BTW you guys act like Clottey didnt try. He gave it his best and fought a style he thought would give him the best chance to win. Think about it, Hatton tried to brawl and got crushed, Oscar tried to outthink him..got crushed, Cotto tried to outbox him, go to the body, then bully him around....got crushed. So all these styles people tried to use against Pac didn't work, and clottey knew it. Clottey tried to sit back and counter, got overwhelmed and eventually got shutout.

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            #15
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Some African fighters lack motivation? I think you can apply that to every...continent? Some European fighters lack motivation. Some North American fighters lack motivation...etc. You're talking as if Africa is a country. It's not. Ike Quartey and Sam Peter have nothing in common besides being Black. Horrible.

            So because Clottey is ghanian i should say some ghanian fighter lack motivation instead of african fighter?? Am grouping africans in one, Sam peter is nigerian and africa is their continent so thats the reason i said africa...

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ray*

              So because Clottey is ghanian i should say some ghanian fighter lack motivation instead of african fighter?? Am grouping africans in one, Sam peter is nigerian and africa is their continent so thats the reason i said africa...
              Yeah, don't you usually go by country? When did you start going by continent?

              And then perhaps you could show how that country's fighters are complacent.

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                #17
                Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                ^^^ Cosign.

                BTW you guys act like Clottey didnt try. He gave it his best and fought a style he thought would give him the best chance to win. Think about it, Hatton tried to brawl and got crushed, Oscar tried to outthink him..got crushed, Cotto tried to outbox him, go to the body, then bully him around....got crushed. So all these styles people tried to use against Pac didn't work, and clottey knew it. Clottey tried to sit back and counter, got overwhelmed and eventually got shutout.

                Everyone that gets in the ring to be deserves credit, But you dont fight at the top level without trying to take risk, What clottey did might be trying to you but he didnt go in there with a mentality that suggest he wanted to win so no he actually fought a style that would make him survive.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Yeah, don't you usually go by country? When did you start going by continent?

                  And then perhaps you could show how that country's fighters are complacent.

                  It depends, there have been a lot of boxers at the top level in the last 15 years or so in boxing that are from africa..

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ray*

                    It depends, there have been a lot of boxers at the top level in the last 15 years or so in boxing that are from africa..
                    Africa is a continent. Why do you group 49 countries together? Do you group fighters from Germany and Denmark together? How about Spain and England? China and Iraq? Catch my drift?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      I said before this fight that Clottey has no motivation going into the fight but S A M U R A I called me out on it, When african fighters get to a stage like this they alway lack motivation because the money they are making on that fight would set them up for life back in africa
                      What I said is "Isn't that a bit of a generalization?", and you agreed it might be.



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