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  • Mantis_Atlantis
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    #41
    I know Pacquiao is the peoples champion and he was just magnificent against another very good opponent. But PBF is just a different kettle of fish.

    Pacman's blueprint to be beaten is the Eric Morales 1 or either of the Marquez battles. PBF's blueprint to be beaten is in the Castillo 1 fight and just by observation PBF is closer to Marquez style of fighting than Pacman is to Castillo's style of fighting. Pac is smaller than PBF, PBF is faster and hits harder than Marquez and is better defensively than Marquez.

    My problem is that the fight depends on styles, I'm still trying to figure out how Pacman is going to beat PBF. Simply saying power or speed is not conclusive enough. I'd say its Pacman pressure vs Floyd counter punching.

    I think the key to the fight is AGE. Has Floyd aged to the point that his reflexes have slowed enough for Pacman to catch him? Imagine if that was Pacman that wobbled him in round 2 instead of Mosley?

    Can Pacman at this advanced age of 32 continue his high work-rate and pressure to break through that defense? Remember its easy to look fast against a guy like Margarito, even still he looked alot faster and less sloppy vs DLH 2 years ago.

    Ahh the options are unlimited.

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    • booyah321
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      #42
      Originally posted by Mantis_Atlantis
      I know Pacquiao is the peoples champion and he was just magnificent against another very good opponent. But PBF is just a different kettle of fish.

      Pacman's blueprint to be beaten is the Eric Morales 1 or either of the Marquez battles. PBF's blueprint to be beaten is in the Castillo 1 fight and just by observation PBF is closer to Marquez style of fighting than Pacman is to Castillo's style of fighting. Pac is smaller than PBF, PBF is faster and hits harder than Marquez and is better defensively than Marquez.

      My problem is that the fight depends on styles, I'm still trying to figure out how Pacman is going to beat PBF. Simply saying power or speed is not conclusive enough. I'd say its Pacman pressure vs Floyd counter punching.

      I think the key to the fight is AGE. Has Floyd aged to the point that his reflexes have slowed enough for Pacman to catch him? Imagine if that was Pacman that wobbled him in round 2 instead of Mosley?

      Can Pacman at this advanced age of 32 continue his high work-rate and pressure to break through that defense? Remember its easy to look fast against a guy like Margarito, even still he looked alot faster and less sloppy vs DLH 2 years ago.

      Ahh the options are unlimited.
      I completely agree.

      Also, i really don't think you can look at Pac's past 6 fights. He's fought against basically mirrored opponents who just gave him what he wanted. Since Diaz, he's fought flat footed fighters who had limited lateral movement. He's just been able to pick these fighters apart.

      I'm not trying to diminish what he's achieved, but as you said, Floyd's a different game. He's not going to rush Manny, tactically, it's completely different to his past 6 fights.

      Lastly, all i'll say is that could potentially be a **** boring fight.

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      • R.M {7}
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        #43
        lol you are seriously underestimating Pacquio and overrating Mayweather a tad bit. He can catch Mayweather, and this is according to Hatton. He said they're equal in reflexes but Manny have the power, footwork to end Mayweather.

        Morelez 1 the blueprint? Fark, he is soooo much better now than before it's not even funny.

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          #44
          Originally posted by R.M {7}
          lol you are seriously underestimating Pacquio and overrating Mayweather a tad bit. He can catch Mayweather, and this is according to Hatton. He said they're equal in reflexes but Manny have the power, footwork to end Mayweather.

          Morelez 1 the blueprint? Fark, he is soooo much better now than before it's not even funny.
          Come on now, dude.

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          • R.M {7}
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            #45
            Hatton said it, not me.

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            • V.WEBB
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              #46
              If you think Manny is going to through a 100 plus punches a round against the best defensive fighter and counterpuncher out there, I have some land in ****** Islands that I would LOVE to sell you.

              But, I'm LOVING how you guys making it seem as if Mayweather will be this super easy fight for Manny. You guys are following the trend. Then, after the fight, you guys make 1000 threads of excuses.

              Styles are everything, remember that.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #47
                Originally posted by R.M {7}
                Hatton said it, not me.
                Then Ricky Hatton is delusional. It is clear as day that Pacqiauo does not have even close to the reflexes that Mayweather has. Peroid.

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                • JOM'S
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                  #48
                  these arguments never ends till the two fight, imho both sides are gulity of underestimating each other ...

                  PAC, FLOYD JUST MAKE THE FIGHT HAPPEN!!

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                    #49
                    Manny has always had problems with counter punchers. Always. Floyd would tool him IMO. It won't be an exciting fight. It'll be a one sided domination. Pacquiao would have to chase Floyd and get countered easily.

                    Speed and Technique kill every time.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Mantis_Atlantis
                      I know Pacquiao is the peoples champion and he was just magnificent against another very good opponent. But PBF is just a different kettle of fish.

                      Pacman's blueprint to be beaten is the Eric Morales 1 or either of the Marquez battles. PBF's blueprint to be beaten is in the Castillo 1 fight and just by observation PBF is closer to Marquez style of fighting than Pacman is to Castillo's style of fighting. Pac is smaller than PBF, PBF is faster and hits harder than Marquez and is better defensively than Marquez.

                      My problem is that the fight depends on styles, I'm still trying to figure out how Pacman is going to beat PBF. Simply saying power or speed is not conclusive enough. I'd say its Pacman pressure vs Floyd counter punching.

                      I think the key to the fight is AGE. Has Floyd aged to the point that his reflexes have slowed enough for Pacman to catch him? Imagine if that was Pacman that wobbled him in round 2 instead of Mosley?

                      Can Pacman at this advanced age of 32 continue his high work-rate and pressure to break through that defense? Remember its easy to look fast against a guy like Margarito, even still he looked alot faster and less sloppy vs DLH 2 years ago.

                      Ahh the options are unlimited.

                      excellent post which will go over *******s heads

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