Cotto-140-> 147..+ Power, Speed, Chin, Stamina = Roids?

[John Hue]

He was weight drained at 140, he'd even blow up to the 150s at Jr WW.

I agree. There is a big difference between a fighter busting his butt to make the weight moving up and performing well and a fighter performing well at way above his NATURAL weight.

[sultanisking]

I agree. There is a big difference between a fighter busting his butt to make the weight moving up and performing well and a fighter performing well at way above his NATURAL weight.

Cotto shoudl have lost to Clottey, but the latter got robbed and when Clottey faced manny he barely threw a punch, either mannys abnormal sizehead scared clottey or cotto has as much power as bradley

[ILLuminato]

Cotto shoudl have lost to Clottey, but the latter got robbed and when Clottey faced manny he barely threw a punch, either mannys abnormal sizehead scared clottey or cotto has as much power as bradley

Cotto is done at 147. He's like a slow moving tank now, look at him when he first moved up and then now.

[BoxerDood]

Cotto did lose some power when he moved up to 147. But he was struggling to make 140 so of course he was going to perform better when he moved up in weight. Also, Evangelista knew that he couldn't strictly rely on his power punching in such a skilled division, so he added a few other techniques, and made him more of a boxer.

[savorduhflavor]

You make interesting points.

But the Cotto that fought Judah, Urkal, and Mosley wasn't any different than the one that fought Margarito. He was just as fast and his body type looked the same.

To be honest, in the Clottey fight I thought Cotto looked gaunt. He was wayyy skinnier than usual in the ring, it was weird. And Pac didn't show any signs of slipping IMO. It's just really tough to look good against Clottey.

But your point about having speed/reflex advantages when you first move up is an interesting one. I can see that.

[ILLuminato]

You make interesting points.

But the Cotto that fought Judah, Urkal, and Mosley wasn't any different than the one that fought Margarito. He was just as fast and his body type looked the same.

To be honest, in the Clottey fight I thought Cotto looked gaunt. He was wayyy skinnier than usual in the ring, it was weird. And Pac didn't show any signs of slipping IMO. It's just really tough to look good against Clottey.

But your point about having speed/reflex advantages when you first move up is an interesting one. I can see that.

Maybe it's not the difference in form. But I can see a much bigger difference in movement and even punching. Maybe it has to do with the trainer?

But all I know is, Cotto was much more sharp when he first moved up.

[savorduhflavor]

Maybe it's not the difference in form. But I can see a much bigger difference in movement and even punching. Maybe it has to do with the trainer?

But all I know is, Cotto was much more sharp when he first moved up.

I think it had a lot to do with what Margarito took out of him. I thought Cotto looked just as sharp against Margarito as he did before. Post-Tony, he's really not as sharp.

[Blubba]

Cotto was struggling in a lot of fights at 140 to make weight, best example was his 140 fight with Pauli, which was his last at that division.

[Left2body]

****** thread by a fanboy. Cotto's biggest strength is not his physical abilities (strength, stamina, speed....etc) the things that steroids improves. Its been his skill.

Cotto's skill is extremely under-rated. He has excellent timing and an educated jab and very good counter punching skills.

[disolly]

If you read the full post, you'll see the point I'm making.

ALL (or most elite) fighters when they first move up to 147 experience a speed/reflex advantage. It's like when a baseball player swings a weighted bat before they get into the batter's box. Similar to when Cotto "outspeeded" Mosley.

judah lost his first fight at WW against spinks. and he knocked spinks out a year or two later.