Cotto-140-> 147..+ Power, Speed, Chin, Stamina = Roids?

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  • ILLuminato
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    Cotto-140-> 147..+ Power, Speed, Chin, Stamina = Roids?

    When Miguel Cotto went up to 147 he beat Quintana, Judah, and Urkal all by knockout. He also beat Mosley by decision.

    Especially in the Mosley fight, Cotto seemed to outspeed Mosley, he had more power, better stamina, his chin held up better than it had at 140. His timing had even improved.

    It must be noted that this invincibility only lasted about a year and a half. I recall Cotto looking like, instead of a thoroughbred, like a slow moving tank. When he fought Mosley and Judah he was slim and trim, against Margarito, he was more filled out. The result was that he was much slower and less sharp. He looked terrible in the Clottey fight I must mention (compared to the Mosley fight).

    The truth is, Cotto never did roids. Neither does Manny. What I believe is, that we've seen the pinnacle of Manny Pacquiao against Cotto. I predict after a fight or two now, Manny will slowly start to fill out and lose his form, and his invincibility alike. You could see it a bit in the Clottey fight, he wasn't as sharp as he usually is.

    When these fighters move up to 147, they are used to the speed at the lower weight classes and have a huge advantage in reflexes. After a while, they start to fill out and get used to the 147 speed... which is a changeup compared to 140 and 135 and below.
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    #2
    He was weight drained at 140, he'd even blow up to the 150s at Jr WW.

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    • Boxeo_Boricua
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      • sebspeed
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        Cotto already had the power and the speed at 140 pounds. I have no idea if he had stamina issues at 140, but one thing I know is that his chin was weaker at 140 because he was weight drained. And it's common that when a fighter moves up in a weight that is better suited for him, his chin will be tougher because he won't be weight drained.

        Ps: You're a troll, or a definition of *******. There's a lot of good posters that are fan of Pacquiao, but you're not one of them, you're a nuthugger.

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        • Bushidō
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          #5
          Originally posted by ILLuminato
          When Miguel Cotto went up to 147 he beat Quintana, Judah, and Urkal all by knockout. He also beat Mosley by decision.

          Especially in the Mosley fight, Cotto seemed to outspeed Mosley, he had more power, better stamina, his chin held up better than it had at 140. His timing had even improved.

          It must be noted that this invincibility only lasted about a year and a half. I recall Cotto looking like, instead of a thoroughbred, like a slow moving tank. When he fought Mosley and Judah he was slim and trim, against Margarito, he was more filled out. The result was that he was much slower and less sharp. He looked terrible in the Clottey fight I must mention (compared to the Mosley fight).

          The truth is, Cotto never did roids. Neither does Manny. What I believe is, that we've seen the pinnacle of Manny Pacquiao against Cotto. I predict after a fight or two now, Manny will slowly start to fill out and lose his form, and his invincibility alike. You could see it a bit in the Clottey fight, he wasn't as sharp as he usually is.

          When these fighters move up to 147, they are used to the speed at the lower weight classes and have a huge advantage in reflexes. After a while, they start to fill out and get used to the 147 speed... which is a changeup compared to 140 and 135 and below.
          If you look at his weighins at 140 he looked extremely sick. Similar to Morales in his later years. He was really killing himself trying to make weight. Once he moved up he was more comfortable and didn't have to kill himself to make the weight

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          • GT-R
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            #6
            cotto moves from 140 to regular wieght of 165-70?

            Definitely on steroids.

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            • BritishBoxing92
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              Originally posted by ILLuminato
              When Miguel Cotto went up to 147 he beat Quintana, Judah, and Urkal all by knockout. He also beat Mosley by decision.

              Especially in the Mosley fight, Cotto seemed to outspeed Mosley, he had more power, better stamina, his chin held up better than it had at 140. His timing had even improved.

              It must be noted that this invincibility only lasted about a year and a half. I recall Cotto looking like, instead of a thoroughbred, like a slow moving tank. When he fought Mosley and Judah he was slim and trim, against Margarito, he was more filled out. The result was that he was much slower and less sharp. He looked terrible in the Clottey fight I must mention (compared to the Mosley fight).

              The truth is, Cotto never did roids. Neither does Manny. What I believe is, that we've seen the pinnacle of Manny Pacquiao against Cotto. I predict after a fight or two now, Manny will slowly start to fill out and lose his form, and his invincibility alike. You could see it a bit in the Clottey fight, he wasn't as sharp as he usually is.

              When these fighters move up to 147, they are used to the speed at the lower weight classes and have a huge advantage in reflexes. After a while, they start to fill out and get used to the 147 speed... which is a changeup compared to 140 and 135 and below.
              as good as points you make...i doubt Miguel Cotto is on steroids..

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                jesus christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • ILLuminato
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                  If you read the full post, you'll see the point I'm making.

                  ALL (or most elite) fighters when they first move up to 147 experience a speed/reflex advantage. It's like when a baseball player swings a weighted bat before they get into the batter's box. Similar to when Cotto "outspeeded" Mosley.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ILLuminato
                    If you read the full post, you'll see the point I'm making.

                    ALL (or most elite) fighters when they first move up to 147 experience a speed/reflex advantage. It's like when a baseball player swings a weighted bat before they get into the batter's box. Similar to when Cotto "outspeeded" Mosley.
                    Cotto timed Mosley, he didn't "outspeed" him. Mosley is much faster

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