Pacquiao-Clottey PPV Buys Estimate

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Parody
    Banned
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Apr 2005
    • 13685
    • 538
    • 734
    • 21,205

    #1

    Pacquiao-Clottey PPV Buys Estimate

    Source: http://www.************.com/2010/03/...y-ppv-numbers/


    ************ = b o x i n g n e w s 2 4.com


    Pacquiao-Clottey PPV Numbers

    By Alexander Fugate:


    Pacquiao-Clottey is estimated to have between 650,000 and 700,000 PPV buys. While this is a good number for most fighters, its no where near the number of people who pay to see Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight. Many Pacquiao fans have been insisting he is the biggest draw in boxing.


    However, those who make that erroneous claim ignore the facts and just reiterate over and over again without any proof or numbers to back it up. Mayweather was a hair from doubling Pacquiao’s PPV buys against Oscar De La Hoya.


    Mayweather over doubled Pacquiao’s numbers against Juan Manuel Marquez. Mayweather got more buys versus Hatton in the US and over double Pacquiao’s in the UK. Mayweather-Marquez was supposed to have been a mismatch and most were expecting some where in the range of 500,000-700,000 buys, yet over a million people purchased that fight. What makes that number even more impressive is that it went head-to-head with a UFC PPV event.


    Pacquiao got 1.25 million buys against both De La Hoya and Cotto. With the numbers for March 13th, it is now clear Pacquiao isn’t a huge draw, but needs another high profile opponent to bring in the huge numbers that Mayweather consistently does.


    What makes matters even worse for Manny is that both Mayweather and Freddie Roach are on record saying Mosley isn’t a big draw. In fact, that was one of the reasons Roach gave for Manny fighting Cotto instead of “Sugar” Shane. Since Cotto is a bigger draw than Mosley, than Pacquiao-Cotto should have better numbers than Mayweather-Mosley, if Manny is close to the draw that Mayweather is.


    However, most expect Mayweather-Mosley to sell far more PPV’s. In fact, the May 1st clash could bring in over 2 million and possibly even 2.5 million, which would be double any event Pacquiao has ever been in. If Mayweather-Mosley gets over 2 million buys, there is no way that Manny deserves anything close to a 50/50 split. Mayweather has constantly brought in better numbers than Manny.


    If Pacquiao is serious about wanting to fight Mayweather, he needs to accept the fact that more people are willing to shell out their money to see Floyd than him, and accept a smaller cut of the purse. If Manny insists on a 50/50 split, it will be clear he has no intention of fighting the best and is looking for a way out. He would still make much more with a 40% cut of the purse in a fight with Mayweather, compared to a fight with anyone else where Manny would receive a bigger share of the earnings than his opponent.


    If Mayweather can get by Mosley on May 1st, the world will be waiting to see if Manny actually wants to be a part of what would be the biggest match ever. And the answer will be clear when he makes his demand for his share of PPV revenue.
    Last edited by Parody; 03-19-2010, 08:15 AM.
  • Parody
    Banned
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Apr 2005
    • 13685
    • 538
    • 734
    • 21,205

    #2
    Source: http://www.badlefthook.com/2010/3/18...s-estimated-at


    Pacquiao-Clottey buys estimated at 650-700,000


    With no HBO "24/7" dedicated to the event, an unknown B-side fighter in the main event, and an undercard that while not notably weak certainly didn't help matters, industry chatter is that the Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey fight last weekend did around 650,000 pay-per-view buys in the United States, with the final number likely to be near 700,000.

    Even the highest end number there (700K) would put it well below recent numbers for major "event" fights. Last year, Hatton-Pacquiao did around 825K, followed by Mayweather-Marquez at 1 million and Cotto-Pacquiao at 1.25 million. But I'd also say that this shouldn't have been unexpected, and it should be considered a success and testament to Pacquiao's drawing power.

    Perhaps most importantly, this could prove to be roadblock No. 732 in making Mayweather-Pacquiao ever happen. Without any question, the buys for Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s fight with Shane Mosley on May 1 will obliterate this number. If all really goes well, Mosley-Mayweather could triple the buys for Pacquiao-Clottey, which would mean there is absolutely no way in hell that the Mayweather camp will acquiesce to a 50/50 split with Pacquiao if they ever get back to the negotiating table. I think Pacquiao-Mosley could've done great numbers, too, but the fact of the matter is that Mayweather was able to line up the better fight commercially, and it's also the better fight in terms of challenge. It may have been more happenstance than anything, but to the victor goes the spoils and all that.

    Mayweather, should he beat Mosley and negotiate with Pacquiao, will probably look for at least a 60/40 split at this point. If he and Mosley do really mega numbers, around two million buys or so (which is not as out of the question as it might seem to some, I believe), then he might even open with something absurd like 70/30.

    To get back to the Pacquiao-Clottey number itself, though, it's really pretty incredible when you think about it. The man has grown into a serious superstar. I'm sure there will be the dullards that laugh about this number as though it's some sort of "proof" of something heinous or disastrous, but think back to March 2008, when Pacquiao rematched Juan Manuel Marquez. In boxing circles, that fight was just about 100 times more highly anticipated than Pacquiao-Clottey, at least as I remember it. That fight sold to about 400,000 homes, which was an incredible number, and still a record for a main event fight with boxers that size (they were at 130 for that fight).

    Now, with Clottey, who not only isn't a mainstream fighter by any stretch, but also doesn't have the incredible Mexican boxing fan following, Pacquiao has sold at least 650,000 or so PPVs. We're talking about at least a quarter million more people buying Pacquiao-Clottey than the highly-anticipated Marquez-Pacquiao II. Not bad

    Comment

    • Parody
      Banned
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Apr 2005
      • 13685
      • 538
      • 734
      • 21,205

      #3
      Bob Arum: The worst it could do is 650,000

      Comment

      • brently1979
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Jan 2007
        • 1226
        • 154
        • 441
        • 13,535

        #4
        Those numbers aren't that bad considering the **** job Top Rank did promoting the fight and the lack of a 24/7 series.

        Floyd knows how to sell a fight that is for sure.

        Comment

        • smifnwessun
          Banned
          • Jan 2008
          • 504
          • 20
          • 12
          • 618

          #5
          Not a ******* in sight i guess the truth that mayweather is the bigger draw is too much to handle.

          Comment

          • PAKYO
            in the sandlands
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Oct 2009
            • 3805
            • 116
            • 73
            • 10,212

            #6
            If the floyd-mosley fight doesn't reach a mill surely means people got fed up that even a 24/7 hype can't pull nor his trash talking.

            The pac-clottey did not get any hype at all but for it to reach 700-800k ppv buys means only one thing, pac's name sells by itself even if he doesn't have a dance partner.

            Comment

            • PAKYO
              in the sandlands
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Oct 2009
              • 3805
              • 116
              • 73
              • 10,212

              #7
              Originally posted by smifnwessun
              Not a ******* in sight i guess the truth that mayweather is the bigger draw is too much to handle.
              What truth are you talking about here? You don't understand that with all the hype floyd-mosley did for their bout compared to the pac-clottey bout, it is only expected it should sell a much higher number but if it doesn't could only mean one thing, your god got exposed.

              You better save all dimes and find some old lady to mug so you can help out with the ppv sales later on as i don't expect it will generate as much as before.

              Comment

              • Parody
                Banned
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Apr 2005
                • 13685
                • 538
                • 734
                • 21,205

                #8
                Originally posted by PAKYO
                If the floyd-mosley fight doesn't reach a mill surely means people got fed up that even a 24/7 hype can't pull nor his trash talking.

                The pac-clottey did not get any hype at all but for it to reach 700-800k ppv buys means only one thing, pac's name sells by itself even if he doesn't have a dance partner.
                Lets have a bet, Mayweather vs Mosley will do MORE than TWICE as much in PPVs than what Pacquiao vs Clottey will generate and guaranteed to be above 1 million buys.

                For example if Pacquiao-Clottey does 700,000 Buys, our bet will be that Mayweather-Mosley does MORE than 1.4 million Buys.

                Comment

                • smifnwessun
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 504
                  • 20
                  • 12
                  • 618

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PAKYO
                  What truth are you talking about here? You don't understand that with all the hype floyd-mosley did for their bout compared to the pac-clottey bout, it is only expected it should sell a much higher number but if it doesn't could only mean one thing, your god got exposed.

                  You better save all dimes and find some old lady to mug so you can help out with the ppv sales later on as i don't expect it will generate as much as before.
                  All i hear is excuses your god ******* is not near the superstar that floyd is

                  address the number in front of you and stop speaking about if floyd will fail

                  pac failed and you cant even address it, sounds like deep psychosis to me

                  and a severe man crush on your part. Floyd has been a superstar right from

                  the outset pacman is a result of a decent trainer and HGH i cant wait until

                  floyd exposes that cheater i think that would cause you to jump off a bridge

                  when that truth comes to light

                  Comment

                  • Killa Killa
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1360
                    • 38
                    • 60
                    • 1,587

                    #10
                    People with knowledge have been knowing Money May is the bigger draw...

                    I've met some people who have just found out who Pacquiao is or still don't really know...

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP