Pacquiao-Clottey buys estimated at 650-700,000

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  • PAKYO
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    #131
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    People act as if 24/7 automatically adds 500,000 buys to your pay-per-view numbers or something. Tell that to Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe.
    Not that much though but it does hype up the fight like drinking some piss and some **** talking.

    Let's see how it will do on May 1st.

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      #132
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      People act as if 24/7 automatically adds 500,000 buys to your pay-per-view numbers or something. Tell that to Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe.


      What the effect of a 24/7 in PPV sales?

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        #133
        Originally posted by PAKYO
        Not that much though but it does hype up the fight like drinking some piss and some **** talking.

        Let's see how it will do on May 1st.
        Yeah, it hypes the fight - like having the match ever at the new Dallas Stadium. The point is, 24/7 goes only as far as its participants.

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          #134
          Originally posted by Ray*


          What the effect of a 24/7 in PPV sales?
          I don't know. It depends on who is on it IMO.

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            #135
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            I don't know. It depends on who is on it IMO.

            247 IMHO is for people like Mayweather who loves to talk or trashtalk, Its not for people who are shy, Even people whose first language arent english are at a disadvantage. Thats why most of the 247 involving Mayweather are more successful than anyone elses.

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              #136
              Originally posted by Ray*

              247 IMHO is for people like Mayweather who loves to talk or trashtalk, Its not for people who are shy, Even people whose first language arent english are at a disadvantage. Thats why most of the 247 involving Mayweather are more successful than anyone elses.
              I don't understand how you can say a certain 24/7 is successful if it is not generating money directly.

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                #137
                Originally posted by PAKYO
                I don't understand how you can say a certain 24/7 is successful if it is not generating money directly.
                It's a marketing tool, do you understand what that means? What are you talking about, generating money directly?

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by statosteve
                  With no HBO "24/7" dedicated to the event, an unknown B-side fighter in the main event, and an undercard that while not notably weak certainly didn't help matters, industry chatter is that the Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey fight last weekend did around 650,000 pay-per-view buys in the United States, with the final number likely to be near 700,000.

                  Even the highest end number there (700K) would put it well below recent numbers for major "event" fights. Last year, Hatton-Pacquiao did around 825K, followed by Mayweather-Marquez at 1 million and Cotto-Pacquiao at 1.25 million. But I'd also say that this shouldn't have been unexpected, and it should be considered a success and testament to Pacquiao's drawing power.

                  Perhaps most importantly, this could prove to be roadblock No. 732 in making Mayweather-Pacquiao ever happen. Without any question, the buys for Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s fight with Shane Mosley on May 1 will obliterate this number. If all really goes well, Mosley-Mayweather could triple the buys for Pacquiao-Clottey, which would mean there is absolutely no way in hell that the Mayweather camp will acquiesce to a 50/50 split with Pacquiao if they ever get back to the negotiating table. I think Pacquiao-Mosley could've done great numbers, too, but the fact of the matter is that Mayweather was able to line up the better fight commercially, and it's also the better fight in terms of challenge. It may have been more happenstance than anything, but to the victor goes the spoils and all that.

                  Mayweather, should he beat Mosley and negotiate with Pacquiao, will probably look for at least a 60/40 split at this point. If he and Mosley do really mega numbers, around two million buys or so (which is not as out of the question as it might seem to some, I believe), then he might even open with something absurd like 70/30.

                  To get back to the Pacquiao-Clottey number itself, though, it's really pretty incredible when you think about it. The man has grown into a serious superstar. I'm sure there will be the dullards that laugh about this number as though it's some sort of "proof" of something heinous or disastrous, but think back to March 2008, when Pacquiao rematched Juan Manuel Marquez. In boxing circles, that fight was just about 100 times more highly anticipated than Pacquiao-Clottey, at least as I remember it. That fight sold to about 400,000 homes, which was an incredible number, and still a record for a main event fight with boxers that size (they were at 130 for that fight).

                  Now, with Clottey, who not only isn't a mainstream fighter by any stretch, but also doesn't have the incredible Mexican boxing fan following, Pacquiao has sold at least 650,000 or so PPVs. We're talking about at least a quarter million more people buying Pacquiao-Clottey than the highly-anticipated Marquez-Pacquiao II. Not bad.
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                  • PAKYO
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    It's a marketing tool, do you understand what that means? What are you talking about, generating money directly?
                    I asked why he could say it is successful and how does he gauge it to be deemed successful??

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by PAKYO
                      I asked why he could say it is successful and how does he gauge it to be deemed successful??
                      I'm not in their headquarters but I'm pretty sure HBO bases its success on viewership and subsequent sales of the event? IDK, call me crazy.

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