Those of you who believe Pacquiao is using PEDs please enter...

[Killa Killa]

so you even admit that Pac never failed a test..

Yea, I'll admit that he has never failed a test...

but that doesn't make a difference because it only comes down to 2 opinions:

1) I think Pacquiao is on steriods

2) I don't think Pacquiao is on steroids

You have you option, I have mine...

You may think think fighter A is boring, I may think he isn't boring..either way it's all opinion...

[Tamis!]

People who have flawed logic are being owned in this thread.

[koboy]

You arent making any sense, Pacquio has only one loss which was unfair considering he didnt make weight and had to use heavier gloves, so it doesnt count. Jordan was bad in highschool, while Pacquio was an amazing boxer at such a tender age.

You are comparing oranges to basketballs.

Try making sense

Did you read the whole thread? It was a response to someone who said that Lebron was already great at a young age, unlike Manny who just got better recently, therefore he must be taking steroids.

My response was that MJ wasn't great either at the beginning but became the best withouth the help of steroids, kind of like Manny, IMO.

I don't care how Manny lost and I don't care if he lost, the fact that he is the best right now is a akin to MJ being the best after a so-so start to his career.

Stop riding my nuts because I actually like Pacquiao and what he has achieved in his career. Read the thread first and then reply. Wad.

[Thread Stealer]

at needing proof to believe a PRO ATHLETE uses PEDs.

[koboy]

Michael Jordan went from 6 foot 3 to 6 foot 6 fool. He hit a growth spurt on top of his skills.

You mean it wasn't steroids! I think it is.

Now prove to me that MJ is innocent. I'll wait.

[Tamis!]

You mean it wasn't steroids! I think it is.

Now prove to me that MJ is innocent. I'll wait.

Talk about shifting the tide with the same line of logic argued hahahaha

[*2TOUGH*]

because anyone is innocent until proven guilty

and how does one proove innocence and guilt in this scenario???

[koboy]

at needing proof to believe a PRO ATHLETE uses PEDs.

Because without proof it is all baseless accusations and conjecture. Is Lance Armstrong a dopehead? Do you have proof?

[ajohnz]

sorry man, but kobe wasnt great in highschool go and look into it

please stop making up lies to make your point seem more valid...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant#High_school

"High school
Bryant earned national recognition during a spectacular high school career at Lower Merion High School located in the Philadelphia suburb of Lower Merion. His father coached him his sop****re (second) year of high school. At Adidas ABCD camp, Bryant earned the 1995 senior MVP award,[15] while playing alongside future NBA teammate Lamar Odom.[16] While in high school, then 76ers coach John Lucas invited Bryant to work out and scrimmage with the team, where he played one-on-one with Jerry Stackhouse.[17] In his senior year of high school, Bryant led the Aces to their first state championship in 53 years. During the run, he averaged 30.8 points, 12 rebounds, 6.5 assists, 4.0 steals, and 3.8 blocked shots in leading the Aces to a 31–3 record.[18] He ended his career as Southeastern Pennsylvania's all-time leading scorer at 2,883 points, surpassing both Wilt Chamberlain and Lionel Simmons.[19] Bryant received several awards for his performance his senior year including being named Naismith High School Player of the Year, Gatorade Men's National Basketball Player of the Year, a McDonald's All-American, and a USA Today All-USA First Team player.[20] Bryant's varsity coach, Greg Downer, commented that Bryant was "a complete player who dominates".[18] In 1996, Bryant took R&B singer Brandy Norwood to his senior prom,[21] though the two were/are just friends. His SAT score of 1080[22] would have ensured his basketball scholarship to various top-tier colleges. Ultimately, however, the 17-year-old Bryant made the decision to go directly into the NBA. Bryant's news was met with a lot of publicity at a time when prep-to-pro NBA players was not very common (Kevin Garnett being the only exception in 20 years). Bryant has stated that had he decided to go to college after high school, he would have attended Duke University.[23]"

[Thread Stealer]

Because without proof it is all baseless accusations and conjecture. Is Lance Armstrong a dopehead? Do you have proof?

The topic is simply for people who BELIEVE he is using PEDs, not "those who can prove it in court".

Furthermore, we're talking about PED use in sports, something that no one should be the least be surprised about, not an athlete going out and being a serial killer.