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  • Originally posted by disolly View Post
    because there is no proof, and it all started because of a potential opponent and his family accusing him. flimsy. not like any boxing experts accused him, just a crack dealer and women beater.
    in a public forum? no that would be ****** and on par with what the Mayweathers are aside from boxing

    but on my reputation this has been discussed LOOOONG before Sr open his trap and amongst some of the boxing experts.

    they just wont say it aloud

    but I was in Houston for the JMM Diaz fight with a bunch of writers trainers managers and fighters

    back then it was about 50/50 in their views about Manny

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    • Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
      you know what

      **** off plain and simple



      otherwise let me repeat so you are clear

      ****

      OFF

      my goodness what an angry "old" soul you are

      lol

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      • I am

        and you still are an idiot

        nothing changes that

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        • Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
          in a public forum? no that would be ****** and on par with what the Mayweathers are aside from boxing

          but on my reputation this has been discussed LOOOONG before Sr open his trap and amongst some of the boxing experts.

          they just wont say it aloud

          but I was in Houston for the JMM Diaz fight with a bunch of writers trainers managers and fighters

          back then it was about 50/50 in their views about Manny


          LMAO!!!!!

          So how did all these boxing experts say it???? Telepathically????

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          • Originally posted by dakoNYCaso View Post
            LMAO!!!!!

            So how did all these boxing experts say it???? Telepathically????
            um you know when people gather in a social enviroment oh say like the lobby of the host hotel where the fights are going to be?

            you know when people discuss things in a social manner topics do come up?

            you know I am sure you have had that happen once or twice in your lifetime right?

            right?

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            • Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
              um you know when people gather in a social enviroment oh say like the lobby of the host hotel where the fights are going to be?

              you know when people discuss things in a social manner topics do come up?

              you know I am sure you have had that happen once or twice in your lifetime right?

              right?
              Yeah,,, I know....Its called talking ****....

              You know like watching something great like Jordan with some friends.... "That motherfkker is on some ****,,, did you see that dunk?"


              But, adults know when to separate etiquette with friends and publicly accusing a known person....

              Pac is one of the most publicly scrutinized figure on the planet, pre and after the crackhead rumors,,,, dont you think the thousands of expert/writers/boxers would have made their opinions known in any kind of recorded medium???

              Not one article, blog, video interview,......none...

              Again where the **** is your proof???

              I swear you jealous bitches lie like a cheap rug....

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              • Originally posted by dakoNYCaso View Post
                Yeah,,, I know....Its called talking ****....
                nah actually it was a really good debate among people whose opinions I trust but hey whatever you want to call it to suit your claims that this didn't happen until Sr said it is fine by me

                I know it isn't

                You know like watching something great like Jordan with some friends.... "That motherfkker is on some ****,,, did you see that dunk?"
                no and sadly if you think that this is what it was then to me its more proof of you and your ilk trying to disclaim anything that comes Manny's way by first trying to laugh at the people debating this then trying to discredit what they say

                like I said if you want your satisifaction that Sr started this whole thing thats fine

                you're wrong but I am guessing you have been wrong before


                But, adults know when to separate etiquette with friends and publicly accusing a known person....
                the people I know pretty much were all adult about it.

                the only non adults I see about this are you and your ilk for getting rather childish when someone disputes or speculates something critical of Manny

                we get it you guys like your heroes to be untouchable and saintly

                I don't see it that way and I don't put fighters on a pedastel like you and your ilk

                if something is worthy of a debate then I will run with it and use the knowledge I have gathered from the years I have covered this sport to defend my side

                I don't care who it is period

                Pac is one of the most publicly scrutinized figure on the planet, pre and after the crackhead rumors,,,, dont you think the thousands of expert/writers/boxers would have made their opinions known in any kind of recorded medium???
                at the same time the few who did are now being sued correct? Tim Smith pubically questioned or outlined a supposed conversation about the negotiations and promptly got named in a suit correct?

                look again you don't have to believe me at all

                if that fits your little world so be it

                but just because you and your ilk want to discredit me and my claims doesn't make it true

                so go ahead and not believe me thats fine

                but what I said is true 100%

                Not one article, blog, video interview,......none...

                Again where the **** is your proof???
                proof of what? That Manny is on PEDs?

                I don't have any and have never claimed he is on any or that I knew he was on any

                BUT

                going by what I have heard what people have told me both close to Manny and close to Mayweather gives me a good foundation to at least debate this

                you guys want this open and shut deal so as to not disturb your ongoing worship of Manny

                fine

                but again I won't sit here and be mute just because you are in mid prayer about him

                I swear you jealous bitches lie like a cheap rug....
                what do I have to be jealous of?

                I make good money

                I work in an industry as someone who can influence the sport in a positive manner and have done so for years

                I have given away tons of memorabilia to fans just because

                I have done more for boxing than you I can say that

                so why in the world would I be jealous of anyone? I lead a pretty great life

                oh well go ahead and attack me more

                still doesn't change the fact that I heard what I heard

                no matter how much you want to wish it away

                /everything

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                • Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
                  nah actually it was a really good debate among people whose opinions I trust but hey whatever you want to call it to suit your claims that this didn't happen until Sr said it is fine by me

                  I know it isn't

                  Debate??LOL.... Prove it.... Prove there were these rumors about Pac taking steroids/peds....



                  no and sadly if you think that this is what it was then to me its more proof of you and your ilk trying to disclaim anything that comes Manny's way by first trying to laugh at the people debating this then trying to discredit what they say

                  like I said if you want your satisifaction that Sr started this whole thing thats fine

                  you're wrong but I am guessing you have been wrong before

                  No actually I am eager to learn new things... However, usually when someone makes a claim your average person would say, "hey do you have anything to back up these claims."

                  Unless this was a religion forum where faith takes the place fact, Im really not the type to be gullible...

                  Am I asking too much??? Where is the proof there were rumors of Pac/steroids pre crackhead.... Are we not allowed to question your accounts??


                  the people I know pretty much were all adult about it.

                  the only non adults I see about this are you and your ilk for getting rather childish when someone disputes or speculates something critical of Manny

                  we get it you guys like your heroes to be untouchable and saintly

                  I don't see it that way and I don't put fighters on a pedastel like you and your ilk

                  if something is worthy of a debate then I will run with it and use the knowledge I have gathered from the years I have covered this sport to defend my side

                  I don't care who it is period
                  Putting on a pedestal????LOL... All im asking for is some proof that these rumors were there pre crackhead and now you accuse me of hero-worshipping???LOL



                  at the same time the few who did are now being sued correct? Tim Smith pubically questioned or outlined a supposed conversation about the negotiations and promptly got named in a suit correct?

                  look again you don't have to believe me at all

                  if that fits your little world so be it

                  but just because you and your ilk want to discredit me and my claims doesn't make it true

                  so go ahead and not believe me thats fine

                  but what I said is true 100%
                  Yeah, where were Tim Smith, Malignaggi, Cintron,,, and everyone else before Mayweather Sr. started the ball rolling???

                  Where were they???? Not one article, not one audiovideo interview, not one blog or even one post on a forum....


                  And how about you????


                  You've been a poster here since 2004, right????

                  Why dont you post something before Sr.'s accusation that you had these "debates"... Post them,,, I would like to see them....









                  proof of what? That Manny is on PEDs?

                  I don't have any and have never claimed he is on any or that I knew he was on any

                  BUT

                  going by what I have heard what people have told me both close to Manny and close to Mayweather gives me a good foundation to at least debate this

                  you guys want this open and shut deal so as to not disturb your ongoing worship of Manny

                  fine

                  but again I won't sit here and be mute just because you are in mid prayer about him


                  Again,,,, prove it.... Prove to me that you had these "discussions"....

                  Until then, you are full of ****....





                  what do I have to be jealous of?

                  I make good money

                  I work in an industry as someone who can influence the sport in a positive manner and have done so for years

                  I have given away tons of memorabilia to fans just because

                  I have done more for boxing than you I can say that

                  so why in the world would I be jealous of anyone? I lead a pretty great life

                  oh well go ahead and attack me more

                  still doesn't change the fact that I heard what I heard

                  no matter how much you want to wish it away

                  /everything

                  Again, I appreciate the violin playing.....


                  Prove your point..... Prove there were rumors pre-Sr.'s yapping....

                  Or, maybe we should accept your testimony on faith.... HAHAHAHA!!!

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                  • Originally posted by ajohnz View Post
                    i completely understand that floyd was the one trying to implement these blood tests. but is mannys ego so big that he cant agree to a simple blood test that ISNT implemented by the NSAC to make this fight happen. all manny has to do to make EVERYONE know beyond a shadow of a doubt he doesn't take PEDs is take this simple blood test. the fact that he won't do that, no matter who is asking him to take the tests, is su****ious.
                    Is Floyds ego so big that he thinks he can demand for things to be done his way and only his way. If his heart was as big as his ego, we all would be talking about the fight result not this BS.

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                    • Originally posted by dakoNYCaso View Post
                      Debate??LOL.... Prove it.... Prove there were these rumors about Pac taking steroids/peds....






                      No actually I am eager to learn new things... However, usually when someone makes a claim your average person would say, "hey do you have anything to back up these claims."

                      Unless this was a religion forum where faith takes the place fact, Im really not the type to be gullible...

                      Am I asking too much??? Where is the proof there were rumors of Pac/steroids pre crackhead.... Are we not allowed to question your accounts??




                      Putting on a pedestal????LOL... All im asking for is some proof that these rumors were there pre crackhead and now you accuse me of hero-worshipping???LOL





                      Yeah, where were Tim Smith, Malignaggi, Cintron,,, and everyone else before Mayweather Sr. started the ball rolling???

                      Where were they???? Not one article, not one audiovideo interview, not one blog or even one post on a forum....


                      And how about you????


                      You've been a poster here since 2004, right????

                      Why dont you post something before Sr.'s accusation that you had these "debates"... Post them,,, I would like to see them....









                      proof of what? That Manny is on PEDs?

                      I don't have any and have never claimed he is on any or that I knew he was on any

                      BUT

                      going by what I have heard what people have told me both close to Manny and close to Mayweather gives me a good foundation to at least debate this

                      you guys want this open and shut deal so as to not disturb your ongoing worship of Manny

                      fine

                      but again I won't sit here and be mute just because you are in mid prayer about him


                      Again,,,, prove it.... Prove to me that you had these "discussions"....

                      Until then, you are full of ****....








                      Again, I appreciate the violin playing.....


                      Prove your point..... Prove there were rumors pre-Sr.'s yapping....

                      Or, maybe we should accept your testimony on faith.... HAHAHAHA!!!
                      really?

                      ok man you got me! I am a fraud making this all up. All the fights, all the pressers, all the travel I have done for Bscene is a fraud. Those credentials aren't mine. The interviews I have done are a farce etc etc

                      I made this up because I am jealous of Manny and his fans for having such a strong love affair

                      happy now?

                      like I said you do not have to believe me and if you are using my credibility as reason not to fine

                      but I know again what I have heard so as wrong as you are trying to prove me to be I know what I heard and all the discrediting of me won't change that man sorry.

                      let me ask

                      what makes you think I am full of **** about what I heard? seriously.

                      I am curious as to why considering

                      I have no pattern of lying on here
                      I do give inside knowledge of other things in boxing
                      I work for two industry leaders in the sport
                      and have access to a lot of people within this sport

                      tell me why I am so full of ****. Is it because it's Manny?

                      had I said it was Floyd would you then be on my side and say "yeah man look at what eaner said!!! preach son!!!"

                      I think you would

                      says more about you than me

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