Those of you who believe Pacquiao is using PEDs please enter...

[Chuckguy]

You failed to see the point in what I was saying...

Margarito was caught red handed...

Until a Pacquiao blood/urine test comes back positive, he is innocent...

It's plain and basic common sense...

Ok Ill give you that but
1. you dont know that margarito cheated against Cotto or anyother fighter
that is just supsicion and isnt that what pac is under??
so its ok to assume tony was cheating even though you have no proof???
why???
and
2. Pac wont test so how will we ever know for sure if he is indeed clean or dirty?
we are just going to take his word and be ok with that
I know he isnt the only one cheating
I think alot of fighters are trying to get that edge
but is definately the face of boxing right now

[Hero Complex]

LOL. I like how you try to take the personal attack. Dude, that's weak. Anyways, I never once said Manny was on steroids. I just criticized the dude for agreeing to take a blood test, then backpedaling more than Dieon Sanders. I don't hate Manny. Boy stop.



Again, I asked you show me the proof that Tony cheated AGAINST MIGUEL. You don't have any. Yet you parading around this forum making thread after thread accusing the man of cheating with NO proof, then you make a thread like this..oh the irony.

When and where did I say I had proof?

Did I ever say I could prove it?

[ElMeroChingon]

Me and this other guy from another forum were talking about this. It all comes down to this. If Manny takes the test, when the megafight goes down im 100% behind Manny, if Manny doesn't then i have no choice but to side with Floyd, sorry.

[Chups]

How many drug tests have Shane Mosley failed?

I'll wait right here.

Shane Mosley and who else? Shane Mosley got caught because of BALCO.....so did Marion Jones and Bonds.

Is Manny in the list of BALCO?

[Blue Heffner]

Both fighters are to blame. Both have suspect and dumb motives for the decisions they've made.

There is a chance that any professional athlete could be cheating.

Anyone that walks into their job and refuses to take any type of testing w/o a valid excuse will be considered suspect and in most cases removed and ridiculed.

This is a big deal because Floyd Mayweather is involved. Now people want to accuse him of not being sincere about cleaning up the sport.

[Sin City]

LOL. I like how you try to take the personal attack. Dude, that's weak. Anyways, I never once said Manny was on steroids. I just criticized the dude for agreeing to take a blood test, then backpedaling more than Dieon Sanders. I don't hate Manny. Boy stop.



Again, I asked you show me the proof that Tony cheated AGAINST MIGUEL. You don't have any. Yet you parading around this forum making thread after thread accusing the man of cheating with NO proof, then you make a thread like this..oh the irony.

against margarito you have a case.. you could have a legal case too.

two reasons 1) Photographic evidence of the wraps right after the Cotto bout.
2) Illegal pads found during the Mosley fight.

That my dumb sir.. is evidence. even if circumstancial at best..

You and burner on the other hand have NO evidence. none, what so ever.. you couldn't even try to build a case if you wanted.
You could make a case if you wanted for the Cotto fight, it probably wouldn't win.. the speculation is warranted though, as Margarito has been caught cheating before.


MANNY PACQUIAO NEVER HAS.
no proof against him either.. you and burner fail.

[ajohnz]

Move along now?

I just find it funny that you talking about "proof" of something concerning Manny when there was NEVER proof that Tony cheated against Miguel, but you were the strongest advocate for that movement.

haha owned.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Shane Mosley and who else? Shane Mosley got caught because of BALCO.....so did Marion Jones and Bonds.

Is Manny in the list of BALCO?

No hes not. Thats what makes it more crazy. You just said it. Shane was ONLY caught because of the Balco scandal. If that doesnt happen hed still be cheating.

[Sin City]

You said Pac never failed drug a test.

Guess what Shane hasnt either.

you never answered the question so where we start ignoring you until you do.

[Pacquiao'd]

What Pac is doing is no longer about what he's doing historically as a boxer, but more about what he's doing historically as a human being. If you lay out that he has been boxing over 15 years, close to 60 fights (that also includes almost 60 training camps), moved up 7 weight classes, and his punch output has increased with each division he has moved up. Now call me what you want. But this is the same guy that I witnessed with my own eyes catch Marquez flush 4 times and drop him but was never able to rattle his cage (same thing for Morrales who just sat on his behind and shake his head and quit) yet he is disconnecting bigger men from their senses with one punch. What he's doing is similar to Barry Bonds NEVER hitting anywhere close to 50 hrs to him sudenly ******* that many by August. The only way I think they get away with denial with a clear conscious is because all the people pointing fingers are misdiagnosing it. I think everyone is making a mistake by saying "steriods". It may very well not be steroids, but I believe it's closer to the endurance doping cyclists take during training....not necessarily during the event. How many times do I have to hear about legendary 8 hour workout sessions? Or watch him throw 1,200 plus punches with vigor in his 7th weight class? It's simply common sense.

exactly, great post