Those of you who believe Pacquiao is using PEDs please enter...

[dakoNYCaso]

So judging by your logic
Because manny is a God fearing man then its ok for him to cheat?
so then Im gonna go kill just randomly but I should not be punished because Im a God Fearing man
Obviously manny doesnt fear God when he cheats on his wife thus spitting on the sanctity of Marriage

Who said he cheated, you ****ing moron????


Where's the proof, or are you as dumb as they come and believe everything drug traffickers tell you???

A crack head convict that wouldnt even be fit to testify in a real trial???LMAO!!!


Sure, Pac cheated on his wife,,, is that listed in the Ten Commandments??? Did God say dont cheat on your wife???LMAO... Link please...

Let me ask you,,,,, FLoyd has physically beaten numerous women including his baby's mother.... IS this God-fearing to you???

[Chuckguy]

how bout this.. I'll give you an example of why I believe Margarito could've used illegal wraps and then you do the same with many and PEDs.

I believe Margarito could've used illegal wraps on Cotto because:
FACT 1) He's been caught cheating before with illegal wraps.
FACT 2) Gause and tape dont crack as if they were a hardened substance.
FACT 3) There is a picture of Margarito's wraps cracking after the Cotto fight.

may not be the best of evidence but it's evidence.

Mosley and PEDs.. I believe Mosley used PEDs either knowingly or unknowingly against De La Hoya because

Fact 1) He worked with Balco
Fact 2) There is a paper trail for what he bought
Fact 3) There was witnesses.


now you guys tell me in facts.. why you think Manny Pacquiao is using peds.. I'll wait

you have a pointless argument bro
all that came out after the fact
if manny were to
TEST ONLY
then we would all know that he is either clean or dirty
simple as that but he doesnt test
so that leaves a lot of room for su****ion
innocent until proven guilty
so test to prove your innosence(typo) reed spell check me

[FUC_U_PAYME]

Provide proof of Pacquiaos use of PEDs...

Don't say "Not taking the test for a $40,000,000,000,000,000 pay day"

That's not proof, that's you assuming...

Don't worry I'll wait...

you could say the samething about shane untill he said he took there was no proof he took ped and i'm not a :chickenboy:fan

[Hero Complex]

AGAINST MIGUEL. [/FONT]You don't have any. Yet you parading around this forum making thread after thread accusing the man of cheating with NO proof, then you make a thread like this..oh the irony.

Here's my proof...

You made me do it...

You'll never hear another word from me about it...

I kind of look at it like this...

If you were EVERRRRRRRRRR going to cheat...

it would be against undefeated and top of the division MIGUEL COTTO... the bigeest fight of your life...

not Shane Mosley who MOST thought was past it, even Margarito himself....

or, both... obviously...

What say you? What would he have to do? IMO only the BIGGEST nuthugger would still follow his career...

"Cotto confirmed what has been reported in Spanish-speaking media and said that nobody from his camp went to the other dressing room at Las Vegas' MGM Grand to watch trainer Javier Capitello tape Margarito's hands. Both lost their California licenses, Margarito for a year."

Larry Merchant: Margarito had loaded gloves so I give Cotto a pass for that loss

Don't forget, 75-80% on boxingscene do also, including myself. Now, can we move on.

After watching Cotto's greatest hits on HBO on demand I do come to the conclusion he was beaten up by loaded gloves. But even still, we have to assume that Margarito cheated even before that fight. So to me, when people keep using that as an excuse for Cotto's loss, they need to give someone like Paul Williams credit for outboxing and outlasting him. There is a possibility that the plaster started to harden and the result being that fight becoming competitive in the late rounds.

There's proof that he used it in the Mosley fight. That is enough to make it a strong possibility he used it in the Cotto fight . Either way it will always be a question mark and a legitimate excuse. I'm not a big Cotto fan.

Loaded gloves played a very important part in Cotto's loss.

Adding loaded gloves to the mix amplified his chin problems and gave Margarito one hell of an advantage.

Cotto was outboxing Margarito, but everytime Margarito would land a shot it seemed to dent his body and damage his skin in a bizarre way. I'll agree with the experts, that his L shouldn't count.

Innocent until proven guilty but it's hard to imagine that after 15 years of 42 professional boxing, Margo only began using loaded gloves on his 43rd fight.

Cotto says he felt Margarito cheated, I think I seen interviews where he said it felt like someone hitting him with bricks each time Margarito hit him. So, why not trust the word of the honorable fighter Cotto who has never cheated? I trust Cottos word before I'd trust that mullet redneck looking ***** Margarito.

The used wrap with dried blood stains on it, is proof enough for me... I think he cheated...

LOL this will never go away...but hey, it's Boxing.

Do I think Margarito cheated? Of course he did. Has it been proven? Nope, but they didn't prove OJ killed his wife either...

At this point, just look at both guys' careers as of right now. Cotto is in the biggest fight of 2009 while Margarito's best years are falling behind him by the day without a guarantee that he'll actually return to the big stage. Who really caught that bad end of the stick on that one?

Thats pretty much been my point from the beginning. Granted, it doesnt mean its true but its the most likely scenario. If one could be compelled to use illegal wraps against an aging mosley then you'd think that same person would be compelled to use illegal wraps against a prime (and at the time) undefeated fighter.

cotto is a bigger threat than mosley so i came up with the idea that if he thought he needed them against mosley chances are he would have needed them against cotto too...and who knows against how many other fighters.

we will never know for sure.

it could have been just against mosley or he could have been using them his whole career; etc. you never know.

I think he most likely did cheat against Cotto... if he felt the need to cheat against Mosley who was supposed to be a walkover then why wouldn't he feel the need to do it against Cotto who was supposed to be the hardest test of his career? With that said, there is still no proof he cheated against Cotto, and that is that...

LMAO!!! AT THE ******S thinking and still defending Margarito.

lol.these plaster stans are in denial. this dude would be a poor man's baldo with out the plaster.

The odds are pretty good that he cheated in the Cotto fight. He was busted cheating in a fight he was supposed to win. It's logical to think that he would have done the same in the biggest fight of his career if he cheated in a fight he was supposed to win.

i dont think there's any doubt that Margo loaded up for cotto. Not a doubt.

It's pretty clear to me margarito used plaster that night.. if u watch the fight the 1st 4 or 5 rounds Margarito never really landed too many power punches because cotto was boxing the **** out of him.. but when he eventually tagged cotto a couple of times in the mid rounds cotto was getting busted up very quickly, su****iosuly quick.. The plaster obviously hardened by mid rounds.. Cotto is a warrior and he has shown that in previous fights so when i saw him kneel to margo's onslaught i was shocked definitely there was something in marga's hands..

I don't think he can...

The plaster thing was a REAL ***** move. Even though he got caught and never used it, the attempt was there. Although it was never proved that he used it in any other fight people will always wonder "What if"

In my opinion he should be banned for life. We've seen the consequences of plaster use in the ring... There's NO excuse for it.

margarito without plster,he is just a B-level fighter.

As far as iam concerned Margariton can never redem himself. He is a cheater without the balls to admit it and he should be banned for life.

There is nothing he can do now.

His whole career has a big question mark above it.

I'm a bit gutted really, I really liked his toughness and heart in the ring. He's a **** for trying to cheat/ or for cheating.

Nah, not with me anyway. I use to like Margs and gave him the benifit of the doubt right up until the CSAC released their findings. I don't care what anybody says, he's as guilty as his trainer.

Restore is credibility??? I really doubt it, He would be looked upon like a outcast who shouldnt be touch by the top guys.

There is nothing he could ever do to make me be a fan or take him serious ever again. Honest talk.

i think you have to feel differently since the wrap issue. i mean, the fella cheated, and had plaster type **** in his gloves. they should make it a no contest imo. what's right is right.

On July 26th, it appeared to be such a great fight and such a great victory for Margarito. A classic. But now, it's just a big question mark.

NAIL IN THE COFFIN

[THE REED]

So releiving your pain doesnt enhance your training?
It doesnt help relieve your pain so you can train longer harder?
Im not saying it a ped literally Im just saying that it can enhance your performance
just like a ***en redbull

That's why some are legal, and some are not legal.

Redbull is not illegal, IBUprofen is not illegal.

So it is pointless to bring up Asprin as a Performance Enhancing Drug.

[ajohnz]

Again, I asked you show me the proof that Tony cheated AGAINST MIGUEL. You don't have any. Yet you parading around this forum making thread after thread accusing the man of cheating with NO proof, then you make a thread like this..oh the irony.

haha owned again. don't expect him to argue this point logically, because anyone can see he is a hypocrite.

[Chuckguy]

Who said he cheated, you ****ing moron????


Where's the proof, or are you as dumb as they come and believe everything drug traffickers tell you???

A crack head convict that wouldnt even be fit to testify in a real trial???LMAO!!!


Sure, Pac cheated on his wife,,, is that listed in the Ten Commandments??? Did God say dont cheat on your wife???LMAO... Link please...

Let me ask you,,,,, FLoyd has physically beaten numerous women including his baby's mother.... IS this God-fearing to you???

I am a God fearing Man
and I would not cheat on my GF or wife (when Married)

So now its only God fearing if its in the 10 commandments
ahahhaa
go read a bible

Floyd is a ***** for hitting a woman
just FYI

[Chuckguy]

That's why some are legal, and some are not illegal.

Redbull is not illegal, IBUprofen is not illegal.

So it is pointless to bring up Asprin as a Performance Enhancing Drug.

Damn you Reed you did it again
hahaha

[V.WEBB]

against margarito you have a case.. you could have a legal case too.

two reasons 1) Photographic evidence of the wraps right after the Cotto bout.
2) Illegal pads found during the Mosley fight.

That my dumb sir.. is evidence. even if circumstancial at best..

You and burner on the other hand have NO evidence. none, what so ever.. you couldn't even try to build a case if you wanted.
You could make a case if you wanted for the Cotto fight, it probably wouldn't win.. the speculation is warranted though, as Margarito has been caught cheating before.


MANNY PACQUIAO NEVER HAS.
no proof against him either.. you and burner fail.

Funny how you try to call someone DUMB, but you are not that smart because I have NEVER ACCUSED MANNY OF BEING ON SOMETHING ILLEGAL!

I criticized the man for agreeing to take the blood test, then backpedaling like Deion Sanders! How many times must I say that?

[Hero Complex]

The general boxing public found Margarito guilty...

A bunch of *****s are getting their rocks off of something an old crackhead said...

Big difference...

Margarito = Proved himself to be a cheater, which opens up the door to question any of his wins...

Manny = Untainted, innocent...