Do roids improve Boxing technique?

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  • pasawayako
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    #41
    Originally posted by etlux
    well you're obviously a kid who doesn't know **** about boxing or anything so I'm not going to bother with you. But go ask anyone who knows and you'll see, yes ROIDS will improve your counter punching and your combinations. Are you ******ed?
    Answer me this: How do you improve your counter punching and combinations?
    Answer: By practicing over and over.

    Who will then have better technique the guy who practices 6 hours a day 6 days a week or a guy who practices 3 hours a day 5 days a week?

    ****, you're ****** son.
    Don't you know that floyd is a gym rat? So by your logic if the fighter who spends more time training or practicing is because of the PEDS then what could you say about floyd who almost spend all of his time in the gym?

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      #42
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      Of course it does. Roids makes your body able to recuperate and heal faster hence you can train more. The more you train on your left uppercut for instance, the better it gets.
      Tell me some boxers who used steroids before if that roids helped them significantly on their fights. Vargas? HE TESTED POSITIVE AFTER GETTING HIS ASS WHIPPED BY DE LA HOYA. Shane? After twelve rounds, Mosley emerged with just split decision victory against De La Hoya.
      Last edited by whirlwind; 03-18-2010, 08:46 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by whirlwind
        Tell me some boxers who used steroids before if that roids helped them significantly on their fights. Vargas? Shane?
        Dont know roids mean you can take a punch better? thats why Vargas got KTFO lmao.

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        • disolly
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          #44
          i don't think so, they do make you train harder, which would let you train more and work on your technique. but you don't need roids to work on technique. IF he is using them, i really only think it would be helping his strength at the higher weights, because he has always had great stamina and been able to go to war for 12 rounds. I don't think he is on roids but if he is it is for strength, cause that is the one reason why people thought he couldn't fight above 135, I mean look at JMM and he cant, i think he tops out at 135.

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            #45
            Originally posted by whirlwind
            Tell me some boxers who used steroids before if that roids helped them significantly on their fights. Vargas? HE TESTED POSITIVE AFTER GETTING HIS ASS WHIPPED BY DE LA HOYA. Shane? After twelve rounds, Mosley emerged with just split decision victory.
            What does that prove in your opinion?

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            • whirlwind
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              #46
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              What does that prove in your opinion?
              OMG. It means overall steroids won't help you much in boxing. Then you have to think the scary side effects as well.
              Last edited by whirlwind; 03-18-2010, 09:24 AM.

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              • Uturn
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                #47
                Roids dont improve technique, Period.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                  Do roids improve Boxing technique? because i here people say how Pac started taking roids against David Diaz but what i dont here is how much better Manny Pacquiao is technically, Pacquiaio did a paint job on Diaz but if you actually look at his punch variety, angles, counter punching its quite clear that he has improved his technique dramatically, now to my mind steroids does not improve your Boxing skill, technique but still people wanna point to that fight, okay so i here you say Manny knocked Diaz out flat on his face? yeah after punishing round after round and breaking him down, Soto a super featherweight hurt him, Kendal Holt TK'oed him.

                  Ricky Hatton was being hurt by the likes of Collazo, admittedly a 147 pounder, but by no means a good puncher even at the higher weight, Hatton also got rocked badly by Juan Lazcano a guy who spent most his career at lightweight and was not considered a particularly devastating puncher, he got knocked out against Mayweather whom i dont considered a big puncher, more of a sneaky puncher, also we can agree that Hatton was showing signs of deterioration and everything pointed to him being past his best against Pac.

                  Is anyone that shocked that Manny was able to beat Cotto when you consider how slow Cotto's foot movement is and how fast Manny's is? i hear people talk about him taking Cotto's power, Cotto was never a particularly devastating puncher anyway, plus he is a one handed fighter (a converted lefty with no pop in the right hand)


                  Its important to remember that the accusations stem from people who have/had an axe to grind, Mayweather sr because he trained Hatton who Pac annihilated, Malignaggi who got beat down by Hatton and Cotto, Pac just happened to beat both these guys down, then we have Mayweather himself of coarse, if there are any other critics they are people who have had their opinion coerced by these original accusers, if Mayweather does not question whether Pac is on roids then this is a non issue and know one is accusing Pac of steroids, bottom line.


                  Personally i dont think Manny did only improve with the Diaz fight, it was a progression from the Barrera rematch where he was moving his head more and trying to Box Barrera, as appose to take his head off with the left hand, okay he still had problems with JMM but he is just a guy that will always give Pac problems, although you might argue that Pac is at a more comfortable weight now and thus would KO him now.

                  Okay here is a vid of Pac against Diaz take note of the counter uppercuts that he painting Diaz with thats not steroids thats better technique improvement technically.

                  No! No they don't!

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by whirlwind
                    OMG. It means overall steroids won't help you much in boxing. Then you have to think the scary side effects as well.
                    So if Vargas had went the distance and Mosley had won by a UD roiding would have had a proven effect?

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                    • street bully
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                      #50
                      Anyone can look like a master boxer against David Diaz. pacqwuiao is still the same guy who fought JMM, its just that he has his speed and power.

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