Do roids improve Boxing technique?

[etlux]

Point is Dynamite Flid, you obviously don't know **** about training. Why you would assume someone on roids makes no 'conscious effort' in training is beyond me. The guy on roids is not like you (a dumbass) he's a world class boxer and knows he needs to actively train to improve. And that's what they do they TRAIN, but roids allows them to train twice as long and twice as hard as the guy that's doing it naturally. This allows them to train their techniques far better and more efficiently and thus produce better skills.

[Dynamite Kid]

Why bother praticing at all then?

Regarding Vargas and Toney you cannot say what you say because you don't know how they'd perform without the roids.

Because you have to get fit and sharpen your reflex/timing, work on the game plan etc?

[etlux]

Pacquaio has had 56 fights im sure he has spent a fair few hours in the gym honing his craft before he allegedly started taking steroids.

I dont agree at all with your analogy.

You don't know what he has done or hasn't done. No one in this thread is saying Pacman is on roids, but what we ARE saying is roids will help you improve your technique, PERIOD. So if Pacman IS on roids then yes his technique will have undoubtedly been improved by them, PERIOD. Case closed you lose.

[Fiasco]

They make you train harder and longer. So obviously you're gonna spend more time crafting your skills. So yes, it does have something to do with improving your boxing ability.

[The Great Shark]

Disagree.

What you do technically is down to the conscious decision you yourself make to improve in that area, whether that be discipline to fight from the range you are most effective, making a conscious decision to throw safe punches that are not going to leave you wide open yourself to counters etc.

James Toney, Vargas did not look too spectacular on roids.

Knowing you have steroids in you is already a conscious decision. The mind is a powerful thing, and when outside factors influence it, who knows what one is capable of.

[The Great Shark]

Pacquaio has had 56 fights im sure he has spent a fair few hours in the gym honing his craft before he allegedly started taking steroids.

I dont agree at all with your analogy.

You're in denial then.

[etlux]

Because you have to get fit and sharpen your reflex/timing, work on the game plan etc?

Exactly and roids will make you get fit and sharpen your reflex and work on your game plan FAR MORE because you will be in the gym twice as long with twice the stamina.

Are you seriously that ******?

Tell me, who is going to sharpen their reflexes more, the guy that hits a double end bag for 3 hours a day or the guy who hits the same bag for 6 hours a day if they're BOTH GIVING CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO IMPROVE?

OWNED.

[Dynamite Kid]

I reckon Ricardo Mayorga should take roids, Carlos Maussa to as they will clearly turn into Pac overnight due the hours in the gym.

[etlux]

I reckon Ricardo Mayorga should take roids, Carlos Maussa to as they will clearly turn into Pac overnight due the hours in the gym.

So you got owned in your own thread and made to look like an infantile dumbass so you resort to just making idiotic rhetorical jokes now? Har har real funny, fact of the matter is you were wrong, your argument was owned and your thread failed. **** off.

[etlux]

I reckon Ricardo Mayorga should take roids, Carlos Maussa to as they will clearly turn into Pac overnight due the hours in the gym.

And guess what, if Mayorga and Maussa did take them, there's a good chance they'd improve drastically too. But guess what...maybe Mayorga and Maussa actually have more BALLS and honor to fight fair unlike some people that you idolize...maybe Mayorga has bigger balls and doesn't need to cheat to do what he does than your idol