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[War Dinamita]

Pac's not the same fighter as he once was either. So pretty much, you can and will get better as u age, because you become a lot smarter in the ring.

Exactly. The best evidence they could come up with are things that happened years ago. Floyd is not the same fighter he was when he fought Judah.

[BrotherDudeJack]

brb... gotta go google Emile Griffith.

[boxing2106]

I like how you change your tune all the sudden.. adding "since he became a star"
anyway, Mayweather hasn't fought anyone worth a mention since like Castillo. So nobody because he's avoided the opposition that could give him trouble.
N'duo, Bruseles, Baldomir, Judah, Gatti, etc.. aren't exactly the best of names..

yea right thats why most people thought hatton was gonna be the one to really make him fight and once he fights he was gonna get ktfo and what happend? vice versa

[boxing2106]

Exactly. The best evidence they could come up with are things that happened years ago. Floyd is not the same fighter he was when he fought Judah.

that comment was ****** cuz pac hasnt gottten smarter he just got better physically. and learned new things cuz he simply got older nd has improved. but agianst floyd he'l show his lack of smarts cuz im sure floyd is smarter

[-The Glove-]

Ricky had no PROBLEM with fighting at 147. That all started by the fans AFTER he lost. When they BOTH were at 140, Ricky was "not ready".

All fighters who are challengers have had to move UP in weight to challenge a champion, Ricky is NO different.

Cotto said he had no problem fighting at 145.

[illmatickid]

That very well could be true and rightfully so on floyds part if he needs it. Floyd isn't the only one in the sport who uses it. If its legal, its fair to use. I know you werent trying to hate, just saying as well bud.

it's possible he just upped the xylocaine dosage or found some other type of stimulant. i'm not saying he's dirty but i'm just saying.....

yea i dont get why peopple get all hyped up about xylocaine...
my dad works at a hospital here in Reno NEVADA... he said he doesnt get why anyone would even consider that a PED..and he said it must be recommended and prescribed by a doctor first before anything..soo yea

[chessplayer163]

floyd only fights good moving forward when he has a guy hurt, he doesn't even come forward when he has a guy outclassed.

i've always said from the get go, that someone needs to make floyd lead, make him come forward and commit body weight to his lead punches. it's something no one has done, all fighters do is try and press the action. the only time fighters drop back from floyd is when he has had them hurt or they're gassed.
if a fighter were to drop back like floyd does, there would be no fight because floyd will not and has not led and set the pace of any of his fights. he lets his opponents do the work and he uses his talent to capitalize, now he's going to try and do it to a mosley who is aged and older, to where floyd no feels safe enough to step into the ring with him.

bottom line is if floyds opponents didn't come forward, it would make floyd look bad. imagine if there were two fighters in the ring both using floyds forever fight plan, boxing would be years gone dead........

and that is what i propose a fighter do, make floyd come forward and blame the inactivity on floyd, stating that counter punching is your game plan. if a fighter were to do that, then i think that would expose floyd a bit and definitely prove that he's a boring fighter and it's his opponents who make the fight with him, not floyd taking the fight to his opponent. floyd never takes the fight to his opponents, never............

Right on bro, knock these CLOWNS on their ass. I've been sayin this for awhile.

[BrotherDudeJack]

Know anything about Emile Griffith? Killed a guy in the ring. Not sure how thats a flaw, although I don't agree with that lifestyle, not my place to judge though.

Wow man... just read about him. that's crazy as hell. Can't believe i've never heard of him.

[Piper the Great]

Before I say this, pac and floyd are equally my favorite fighters in the sport, but didn't floyd just fight JMM? and didn't JMM counter the hell out of pacquiao in 2 fights? Also, are you forgetting how fast oscar's hands are/were? You may want to recheck your definition of a fact.

true but they fought on different grounds. Plus jmm was slow as **** @ ww.

[V.WEBB]

Cotto said he had no problem fighting at 145.

I have no problems with what Miguel said.

I wish they could have fought at 147 though. Big I'm not going to cry over it.