valero is overrated.

[tesla_power]

Let's be fair though, most of that fight the other guy seemed terrified. It's the whole tyson thing all over again, what happens when he fights a bigger guy, with good chin, good defence and counter punching, who isn't afraid of him?

we don't know but it could be bad news.

True that. We don't know for sure. I'm very keen of a valero-jmm or valero-katsidis. IMO, jmm or kat have the confidence at least of sharing the ring with him. But Kat's chin could be the end of him. We'll see but Kat last fight was very reminiscent of the old one with better stamina (unlike that ****ty version in the Diaz fight).

[Snopkins]

Let's be fair though, most of that fight the other guy seemed terrified. It's the whole tyson thing all over again.

Except Tyson demonstrated devestating power to the masses and didn't hide behind some phony knockout record.He completely cleared his division of all contenders by the time he was twenty three and established himself as a heavyweight great through this short but dominant reign.



There is absolutely no comparison to be made.

We obviously watched completely different fights.

Obviously.

[tesla_power]

Except Tyson demonstrated devestating power to the masses and didn't hide behind some phony knockout record.He completely cleared his division of all contenders by the time he was twenty three and established himself as a heavyweight great through this short but dominant reign.



There is absolutely no comparison to be made.

Disagree in terms of P4P power but agree on accomplishments. Valero could be a candidate for P4P greatest puncher today. IMO, His lack of notable opposition though is more attributed to licenses issue more than anything.

[Earl-Hickey]

Except Tyson demonstrated devestating power to the masses and didn't hide behind some phony knockout record.He completely cleared his division of all contenders by the time he was twenty three and established himself as a heavyweight great through this short but dominant reign.


There is absolutely no comparison to be made.

Yeah there is, their opponents are scared of both of them.

[Seleção No. 13]

I think we can all agree that his inability to fight in the united states against bigger names set him back. the guy's already 28 and is just branching out.