Revisiting Barrera vs Hamed

[DLT]

Am I the first one to catch this **** or what?

You think Hamed would KO CHico and kill Pacman...based off of what? His up and down brawls with the Flushing Flash and Augie "zero chin" Sanchez???

Chico would put baby Hamed in a god dman body bag, what the **** are you thinking...Diego is pushing 6 god damn feet tall and Hamed barely breaqks 5 feet, it is as big a mismatch as you will find.

Now with PAc, at least Hamed has a tiny chance but the straight left would land all day long and he would most likely be punished by the PAc...how do you know that Hamed can take serious shots and come back...are you basing it on his fight with Paul Ingle...trust me Ingle is no Pac Man...

As for Hamed's style, it often time ****** and was not set up to win at the elite level of the sport...as you stated many of MAB's punches were not flush, it was the off balance Prince that made them look flush, your right, absolutely right-but watch all Prince fights, he always flies around like a ****** when some fighter barely catches him.

Mab fought cautiously because Prince can punch but to even think for 1 damn second that Chico or Pac Man would be thrashed by the tiny prince is ridiculous and suggests to me that you need to not just watch HAmed's fight with MAB but his ones with Ingle, Bungu, Sanchez, Kelly etc.

He was a good pucnher who did not have the style to beat elite fighters, elite fighters will make the Prince look ****** every time, why the hell do you think we have not seen him since? (Callist does not count)

What do you mean he was tiny idiot? He was at 126 when MAB was at 122 and Pac was at 118. Chico was just at 130. Chico is my man but he isnt unbeatable and both him and Pac's style are made for Naz. Those guys arent boxers. Pac might land a couple of shots but with him coming straight in he would get stretched by Naz. Naz was a lefty also so Pac's straight left wouldnt work. Pac is a brawler and he will not beat Naz in a punching match.

Chico is my boy but he also has bad balance and is chinny. Naz would catch him alot and I think he would KO him. Styles make fights. Those 2 would go toe to toe with Naz and get stretched. Do you see how much Chico gets hit?

[m00ks]

Chico murders Hamed. Do you honestly see the Prince taking the same shots that Castillo took? lmafo He'd get M-U-R-D-E-R-E-D against Corrales. Murdered.

Just to let you know, a southpaw is more susceptible to get hit by another southpaw. That's putting his face right in the line of fire. First who lands goes down. I'd take a lazer straight shot rather than a leaping hook any day of the week.

[Memorex]

Barrera flat out beat Hamed.

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What do you mean he was tiny idiot? He was at 126 when MAB was at 122 and Pac was at 118. Chico was just at 130. Chico is my man but he isnt unbeatable and both him and Pac's style are made for Naz. Those guys arent boxers. Pac might land a couple of shots but with him coming straight in he would get stretched by Naz. Naz was a lefty also so Pac's straight left wouldnt work. Pac is a brawler and he will not beat Naz in a punching match.

Chico is my boy but he also has bad balance and is chinny. Naz would catch him alot and I think he would KO him. Styles make fights. Those 2 would go toe to toe with Naz and get stretched. Do you see how much Chico gets hit?

What Naz victory tells you that he can handle boxing elite???

His victory over Tom Johnson? His victory over the pocket rocket or a already over the hill flushing flash? He talked about Eric Morales for a long time and nothing ever happended, I agree that Morales and Pac have styles that would give HAmed chances to land but think about this Augie Sanchez and KEvin Kelly knocked NAz down multiple times can you imagine what a pacman left hand would do...oh I forgot PAc's left wouldn't work, your right Hamed is a defensive genious?

Now Im no Corrales fan but ****na' the guy took JL castillo bombs and you think he could eat a little hamed leather and take him out, I seriously don't think you have watched NAseem enough to speak on him, hell you just watched the MAB fight for the 2nd time? You knock Chico's chin but let me tell you something Hamed's is no better I promise you that! This is absolutely crazy, if they fought I would bet you my home on the fight there is no ****ing way Chico would lose to a guy that barely breaks 5 feet?

Again what elite fighter that the PRince beat suggest to you that he could hang with these fellas??? OR is it his embarrassment to MAB that has you thinking that Hamed has gotten a raw deal with the media and the fans? DLT, the guy went away for a reason and apparently you are missing that reason-the only conclusion you can make is that he quit supposedly in the prime of his career....Naz was a great puncher and a great fighter for this sport but lets face it, NAz was a ***** on the elite level and his retirement speaks louder than anything me or you can say to each other or anyone on this site...

Say it with me now...THE PRINCE IS A QUITTER AND A *****.

[JUYJUY]

Hamed was awful after he fired Ingle, Post-98 he was terrible.

But let's not forget that in 1994, Muhammad Ali said that Naz was more talented that he was at that age!

You hate-filled Yanks haven't seen Naz in his early career, he was nothing like the freakshow you saw in the late 90's and against Barrera. His talent was scarey to say the least, but then when his ego took over he became ridiculous (Kelley onwards).

[DLT]

What Naz victory tells you that he can handle boxing elite???

His victory over Tom Johnson? His victory over the pocket rocket or a already over the hill flushing flash? He talked about Eric Morales for a long time and nothing ever happended, I agree that Morales and Pac have styles that would give HAmed chances to land but think about this Augie Sanchez and KEvin Kelly knocked NAz down multiple times can you imagine what a pacman left hand would do...oh I forgot PAc's left wouldn't work, your right Hamed is a defensive genious?

Now Im no Corrales fan but ****na' the guy took JL castillo bombs and you think he could eat a little hamed leather and take him out, I seriously don't think you have watched NAseem enough to speak on him, hell you just watched the MAB fight for the 2nd time? You knock Chico's chin but let me tell you something Hamed's is no better I promise you that! This is absolutely crazy, if they fought I would bet you my home on the fight there is no ****ing way Chico would lose to a guy that barely breaks 5 feet?

Again what elite fighter that the PRince beat suggest to you that he could hang with these fellas??? OR is it his embarrassment to MAB that has you thinking that Hamed has gotten a raw deal with the media and the fans? DLT, the guy went away for a reason and apparently you are missing that reason-the only conclusion you can make is that he quit supposedly in the prime of his career....Naz was a great puncher and a great fighter for this sport but lets face it, NAz was a ***** on the elite level and his retirement speaks louder than anything me or you can say to each other or anyone on this site...

Say it with me now...THE PRINCE IS A QUITTER AND A *****.

Styles make fights. Do you know that before the Chico-Castillo fight that I made a thread that said Chico will KO Castillo and then Tszyu if they fought but at the same time he would lose to Chop Chop. Chico is great but if you have any kind of movement then you can beat him. Add to that a southpaw who is sneaky and he will drop Chico alot. Hamed beat some good fighters. Your talking about the Barrera fight but did you forget what Floyd did to Chico? Chico also lost to Joel and I think he mightve lost the second one if he didnt have McGirt in his corner. Chico was also getting owned by Frietas until he got tired. Naz would have a great chance against him

[TheKnifeManconi]

but everybody in the States hates Hamed for some reason, and this is why they make it out to be a beating.

ive always admired him..and they say us country boys are racist.stigmas for the lose.

[SnoopySmurf]

Styles make fights. Do you know that before the Chico-Castillo fight that I made a thread that said Chico will KO Castillo and then Tszyu if they fought but at the same time he would lose to Chop Chop. Chico is great but if you have any kind of movement then you can beat him. Add to that a southpaw who is sneaky and he will drop Chico alot. Hamed beat some good fighters. Your talking about the Barrera fight but did you forget what Floyd did to Chico? Chico also lost to Joel and I think he mightve lost the second one if he didnt have McGirt in his corner. Chico was also getting owned by Frietas until he got tired. Naz would have a great chance against him

Joe Goosen was Chico's trainder in the 2nd Casamayor fight, not McGirt. Chico knew was going to jail just before the Mayweather fight and had no fire in him.

Naz would have lost that fight with or without Ingle. Manny Stewart was not giving him bad advice at all. The clown got beat by a warrior. That's all there is to it.

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Styles make fights. Do you know that before the Chico-Castillo fight that I made a thread that said Chico will KO Castillo and then Tszyu if they fought but at the same time he would lose to Chop Chop. Chico is great but if you have any kind of movement then you can beat him. Add to that a southpaw who is sneaky and he will drop Chico alot. Hamed beat some good fighters. Your talking about the Barrera fight but did you forget what Floyd did to Chico? Chico also lost to Joel and I think he mightve lost the second one if he didnt have McGirt in his corner. Chico was also getting owned by Frietas until he got tired. Naz would have a great chance against him

So Chico would KO ZOO and get ko'd by Hamed who has never beaten top notch fighter in his career...quit saying styles make fights, trust me I understand that a lot more than you and don't you dare compare Floyd Mayweather and Prince that is unforgiveable...

I don't mean to be too hard on you hear but what you are saying is pretty god damn ******, DLT you are probably a fine guy but your boxing knowledge or instinct needs to be sharpened.

Again Chico ko's Zoo but would get ko'd by Hamed, you just don't get it, wow you really just don't get it.

Does anyone else agree with DLT??? Please if you do I would love to hear your reasoning....DLT no more comments from you, I want to see if there is anyone else that is braindead out there, you already proved it.

Chico ko's Zoo and gets ko'd by Hamed....holy ****!

[SnoopySmurf]

however snoopy smurf if you think that age is the main reaons behind a fighter ageging you are talking out of the wrong end mate .

look at tyson, wilfred benitiez or naseeem.

all had devastating but short primes, some of it is physicial, some of it is mental.

some of it a decline in training, some in desire, etc etc.

think about it.

I've thought about it. And suddenly realized that Naseem got beat in his prime by a fighter many thought was passed his after his losses to Johnson (twice) and Morales. These two excuses I've read :

1. No Ingle

2. Past his prime.

...are rediculous. He was 27 and for a fighter like Hamed, he wasn't battle worn like Barrera. He's never been taken to deeper waters like Morales did to Barrera. That night, I was rooting for Barrera but was extremely worried that Naseem would KO him. He could turn a fight with just one punch. The way the fight was, Naseem was befuddled and had no answer to the orthodox boxing of Barrera. All the fundementals of boxing was executed perfectly on the unorthodox style of Naseem. However, Naseem tried his best to turn the fight and used all his experience to win it. It's not like he lost his speed. He had it all there. His strength was still there. His reflex. There's no excuse. He got beat fair and square on his best night by a veteran battle worn Mexican warrior.