Revisiting Barrera vs Hamed

[SnoopySmurf]

Naz was past his best when he fought MAB, MAB outboxed NAZ and won the fight easily. Naz Just kept looking for that 1 big punch which never came. Did Naz actually listen to anything Manny steward said?

A Prime Naz was when he had ingle in his corner in the late 90's when he beat the likes of:Medina, Johnson, Kelley, Vazquez, McCullough, Ingle, Soto. Naz was Amazing against these guys.

If Naz had fought MAB in 97,98 I think it would have been a different fight with Naz being the winner.

Past his prime? How old was he? Manny Steward is not a bad trainer. NAZ not listening to good advice does not mean he's past his prime.

[J !]

at least finally we get some sense talked about hamed, he was more interested in how his hair looke dthan what tactics he needed to use against MAB.

Americans hate haemd due to the fact he is a high profile ****** i think, he certianly didnt endear himself with all that ranting and raving prior to the first bell.

And to be honest i agree with them, theres no place for religion in sport.

its a personal thing and Hamed showed a lack of class by using that fight as a stage to air his beliefs.

I ended up shouting for MAB after that bull****.

I have nothing aginast ******si hastne to add in fact one of my good mates is a strict ******, but i do have a problem with someone else forcing their religion on me.

Save your preaching for the church,mosque or whatever NOT a ****ing boxing ring.

[MetalVomit]

[QUOTE=DLT] People made it seem like MAB dominated him but he really didnt that much. I noticed how the ultimate warrior Barrera showed Hamed the ultimate respect. He didnt want to brawl for nothing and stayed on the outside in kind of a punk way if you ask me. He was clearly out boxing the Prince but he didnt land that many hard shots. Most of the punches looked far worst because of the Prince's style of keeping his hands down and always being off balance. The Prince was also bigger then I remebered.]



Kind of a punk way? He put on a ****ing boxing clinic. He knew Naseem hit hard, so he didnt get reckless. He put on a show and basically shut out Hamed.Hamed maybe won 2 rounds. You should watch the fight one more time and score it. I dont hate Hamed, I think he had tons of talent. It's not Barrera's fault if Naz under-trained and didnt listen to Manny in his corner. Plain and simple, Barrera dominated Hamed. He didnt beat the **** out of him, but then again he didnt have to. He was outboxing and outclassing him. I'm tired of people saying "if" this and "if" that. "If" doesnt count, what counts is what happened in the ring that night, and what happened in the ring was Hamed was dominated by a better, smarter boxer.

[J !]

unoudbtedly a boxing clinic mate, Barerra was awesome, my posts certinaly arent to the detriment of MAB who is one of my fistic heroes.

it would have been a much more competetive fight however against the Hamed that won the title rather than the brash braggart he became.

i do thinlk a lot of people tend to rate hamed on this fight alone though and they shouldnt do that. He was a shadow of his former self with Ingle.

[hitterwitter]

Past his prime? How old was he? Manny Steward is not a bad trainer. NAZ not listening to good advice does not mean he's past his prime.

What's age got to do with it? His last fight against Calvo proved this, Why do you think Naz retired, His best days were mid to late 90's.

[SnoopySmurf]

What's age got to do with it? His last fight against Calvo proved this, Why do you think Naz retired, His best days were mid to late 90's.

Age has a lot to do with it. Naz wasn't losing his speed or reflex by the time he fought Barrera. This excuse about him being past his prime is complete BS. This fight was what? Three years ago? He's not even 30!

[moochi]

at least finally we get some sense talked about hamed, he was more interested in how his hair looke dthan what tactics he needed to use against MAB.

Americans hate haemd due to the fact he is a high profile ****** i think, he certianly didnt endear himself with all that ranting and raving prior to the first bell.

And to be honest i agree with them, theres no place for religion in sport.

its a personal thing and Hamed showed a lack of class by using that fight as a stage to air his beliefs.

I ended up shouting for MAB after that bull****.

I have nothing aginast ******si hastne to add in fact one of my good mates is a strict ******, but i do have a problem with someone else forcing their religion on me.

Save your preaching for the church,mosque or whatever NOT a ****ing boxing ring.

have you ever heard holyfield after his fights? or just about any other african american boxer after a victory..............

come on man, the yanks are more religious than the rest.

[SnoopySmurf]

have you ever heard holyfield after his fights? or just about any other african american boxer after a victory..............

come on man, the yanks are more religious than the rest.

I'm not sure if you saw the pre-fight show when Hamed flew in on a t****ze (and got drenched by a flying cup of beer) and all that. Then just before the introduction, he was given the mic and he started a prayer praising Allah being the "gra'est". Now that's blatant. This is boxing, not a mosque.

[J !]

Correct it was a lot more blatant than saying thank god or praise allah once at the end of a fight etc.

thsi was a blatent rant he asked for the mic specifically.

left me cold.


however snoopy smurf if you think that age is the main reaons behind a fighter ageging you are talking out of the wrong end mate .

look at tyson, wilfred benitiez or naseeem.

all had devastating but short primes, some of it is physicial, some of it is mental.

some of it a decline in training, some in desire, etc etc.

think about it.

[hitterwitter]

Correct it was a lot more blatant than saying thank god or praise allah once at the end of a fight etc.

thsi was a blatent rant he asked for the mic specifically.

left me cold.


however snoopy smurf if you think that age is the main reaons behind a fighter ageging you are talking out of the wrong end mate .

look at tyson, wilfred benitiez or naseeem.

all had devastating but short primes, some of it is physicial, some of it is mental.

some of it a decline in training, some in desire, etc etc.

think about it.

Good point JPW

He was nowhere near the same fighter against MAB , that he was against the likes of Medina, Johnson, Kelly ingle etc.