Jeff Mayweather: "If Manny wants the fight, he will step up and take the test"

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  • ManniePhresh
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    #51
    Originally posted by Calilloyd
    So it was OK for Pacquiao to change the rules for the welterweight championship(145 pouund limit) in the Cotto fight and a proposed fight with Mosley(142 pounds). It was OK for pacquiao to demand 10 million dollars for every pound over 147. But it's not OK when it comes to him doing something not "in the rules". You're contradicting yourself with your double standards, and your bias is clearly showing.
    man havent realized that they worship the god king lord high pacquiao whos word is law even when he contradicts himself several times as to why he cant show whats in his blood through accurate random blood testing?

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    • hateinyaeyes32
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      #52
      Originally posted by jasbar
      http://fighthype.com/pages/content7162.html


      "First of all, you're talking about two totally different fighters. One fighter is flat-footed, lies on the ropes and allows people to beat on him. Floyd is a mobile fighter. Floyd isn't just defense. Floyd's defense is why he's moving and while he's actually throwing punches. He will make you miss while he's in the heat of the battle. Floyd makes you miss and makes you pay. Clottey doesn't make you miss. He allows you to hit him on the elbows and hit him on the arms and that's not really defense. There is no comparison to what Floyd does because it's not even the same thing, so for anybody to say that, they are asinine...Listen, you hear so many things, but the only thing that made sense to me when they spoke on the fact of Floyd and Pacquiao fighting was when Max Kellerman said, in the closing of the show, that a writer said it's not about Floyd being scared of Manny. If Manny wants the fight, he will step up and take the test and that's what's killing the fight. There is nothing else killing the fight. Every time that subject comes up, it seems to get lost and disappears," stated world-class trainer Jeff Mayweather as he shared his thoughts on Manny Pacquiao's recent performance against Joshua Clottey this past weekend. Check out what else he had to say about Pacquiao and a potential clash with his nephew, Floyd Mayweather Jr.

      PC: You predicted Clottey would fight the way he did. Did anything surprise you about Clottey Saturday night?

      JM: He did exactly what I thought he would do. He covered up and he had good enough defense not to be knocked out, but at the same time, you can't win a fight with just defense. You have to take some chances. He was put in a situation where he would have to come out of character and basically fight a fight that he's not used to fighting. In every fight that Clottey has been in, especially big fights, he never presses on the gas. Even when he fought Cotto, he had Cotto gone, but he was content with plodding forward, holding his hands up high to not get hit anymore. He allowed Cotto to steal the fight from him; the same thing with Margarito. I don't know what it is with him. Whatever it is, the light doesn't go off with him to say, "I'm a marquee fighter and maybe I need to press on the gas if I even want to be one." In this fight, from the beginning, from the time it was made, I didn't think it would be a good fight. I knew that fight was going to be exactly like it was, with him playing defense and being content with the fact that he made it the distance. And that's not even caring about winning.

      PC: On the other side of the ball, what did you think of Pacquiao's performance? He did pretty much all he could do with what was given to him.

      JM: It was a decent performance. It wasn't nothing spectacular, but at the same time, Clottey is a guy that's tough to look spectacular against. I think that...it was just a good fight; very boring and very one-sided. You can't really look spectacular if a guy isn't taking chances or taking any risk to try to win the fight. You had one man working and one man trying to survive. With that being the case, it didn't even give Manny a chance to actually look good because there were very few exchanges where both guys were trying to hit each other simultaneously. They were never both throwing punches. It was just one guy working and one guy playing defense and that's it.

      PC: A lot has been made of the commentary of the fight. What did you think of the HBO crew?

      JM: Don't get me wrong, it seems like they just got caught up into the hype itself and caught up into the hype of Manny, which a lot of people are. Look at this situation, and a friend just brought this to my attention, he said, "When Manny started fighting, he started off at 106 pounds. That's like Michael Carbajal going up to beat Tommy Hearns and Ray Leonard." Of course, that in itself is phenomenal, but I couldn't see that happening. So even with Manny, it's a situation where this guy has the image of a nice guy, but nobody really knows. He goes out there and he performs and does what he needs to do, especially against a guy like Clottey, who is basically a sitting duck. Anyone that would really assess this fight, who is a fight fan or trainer or anything, would automatically think that this is how the fight would turn out. This fight right here changes your life and he still wouldn't take any risk. You gotta go out on your shield and give yourself a chance to win. He can say he made it the distance with him, but so what? He didn't do anything.

      PC: I hear this being said a lot and I want to let you touch on it a little bit, but I hear people say, "Well, Lil' Floyd is defensive as well. What would he do differently than Clottey?"

      JM: First of all, you're talking about two totally different fighters. One fighter is flat-footed, lies on the ropes and allows people to beat on him. Floyd is a mobile fighter. Floyd isn't just defense. Floyd's defense is why he's moving and while he's actually throwing punches. He will make you miss while he's in the heat of the battle. Floyd makes you miss and makes you pay. Clottey doesn't make you miss. He allows you to hit him on the elbows and hit him on the arms and that's not really defense. There is no comparison to what Floyd does because it's not even the same thing, so for anybody to say that, they are asinine. You're talking about one guy who is a pure boxer, and the purest boxer in the history of the sport, that can actually hit you and not be hit and he right in your face at the same time. And then you got one guy that lies on the ropes and allows you to beat on him. That's the difference is that one is a boxer and one is a sitting duck.

      PC: What did you think of Pacquiao and Freddie Roach's post-fight comments regarding your nephew?

      JM: Listen, you hear so many things, but the only thing that made sense to me when they spoke on the fact of Floyd and Pacquiao fighting was when Max Kellerman said, in the closing of the show, that a writer said it's not about Floyd being scared of Manny. If Manny wants the fight, he will step up and take the test and that's what's killing the fight. There is nothing else killing the fight. Every time that subject comes up, it seems to get lost and disappears. I watched the fight and it's one of those situations...Jim Lampley, oh my God, what was that? Anything that Pacquiao did, he got belligerent about it. When he went on that "****, ****, ****" tirade, Pacquiao wasn't even landing any punches. My God, he got too caught up in the moment. If you listen to him, you would have thought you were watching a very exciting fight. One guy was throwing punches and one guy playing defense, that's it. None of the punches were even landing at the time when he was going ****, ****, ****. I was like, "Wow!" You know what's funny? I fell asleep on that fight. It couldn't hold my interest. That's how boring the fight was. I predicted that type of fight because I know how Clottey fights, but I didn't think it would be that boring. Clottey is a guy that is defense first and covers his head so that you don't have a chance to hit him on the chin. Like I said, anybody that compares his style to Floyd's is asinine and they don't know anything about boxing. You can't even elaborate with someone that would even let that come out of their mouth.

      PC: I felt Clottey's trainer was pretty honest with him. As a trainer, how frustrating is it when you're telling your guy he's losing every round and he has to take a chance and they go out there and do the same things that they had been doing?

      JM: At that point and time, the fighter has basically taken the fight away from you. He's not allowing you to be the trainer; he's doing what he wants to do and you just so happen to be a voice in the corner. He's taking your job away from you because, in his mind, he's already thinking, "I don't care what you say. You can say anything you want to, it doesn't matter." At that point and time, your job doesn't even mean anything. It was about him and how he was going to end the fight. I like the fact that the guy was completely honest with him. "Dude, you lost every round, when are you going to take a chance?" Clottey was also honest to come out and tell the truth, "He threw so many punches, I couldn't do anything and I didn't want to get caught." You don't want to get caught? This is boxing. This is the biggest fight of your life.
      For those who call the Mayweathers crack heads, congratulations, you have just been officially owned... For a crackhead, this guy obviously knows exactly what hes talking about, because everything i read in that was true

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      • mandirigma
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        #53
        ey, I dont think Manny is desperate to fight Floyd...hehehe

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        • CubanGuyNYC
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          #54
          Originally posted by Nike Phats
          Since they've created themselves a lengthy list of steroid users who've "beaten" their test.

          I began caring when all professional sports, not just boxing, became plagued by PED users. I want all sports to have random OST's.

          Because this is the biggest fight boxing has to offer. This is the fight that will be on the national scene, the fight that will be watched by the masses, and the fight that's big enough that it'd set a precedent for all fights that follow.

          By the way, just because someone supports OST's doesn't necessarily mean they're "*****s". It simply means they support drug free sports. Perhaps you don't, but I do.
          Well said, Nike Phats.

          I really didn't want to get into the whole drug testing aspect of Jeff Mayweather's interview, because it's a can of worms. But I feel compelled...and I'm going to make my opinion (relatively) brief.

          PEDs have been used in professional and amateur sports for decades. It's only recently that the "average Joe" has started to care. That's mainly because of what he hears in the media. Once the masses slowly become aware of a problem, the wheels are in motion to do something about it. This potential super fight between Pacquaio and Mayweather might set a precedent to impose stricter drug testing rules in boxing. It all has to start somewhere.

          I don't know if Manny is juicing or not (and I'm not going to dive into that mess of a debate right now). But these are the times we live in. During last year's baseball season, Philadelphia's Raul Ibanez's unusually strong performance prompted one journalist to question whether he might be on steroids. The writer took some heat for raising su****ion without proof. Rightfully so. However, he had a sadly understandable point: nowadays, whenever an athlete performs well beyond normal parameters, his/her performance will be viewed with su****ion. The same can be said about Pacquiao.

          All the drug testing talk aside, I think Jeff Mayweather's comments were intelligently stated and right on the money.
          Last edited by CubanGuyNYC; 03-17-2010, 03:17 AM.

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            #55
            about the 145 catchweight. that fight with cotto is his real fight in that weight division. thats why they asked for catch weight. if cotto turned it down, the blame will be on team pac.

            and if im not mistaken floyd came overweight vs juan marquez at their catch weight fight so that could be explain why team pac asked for weight penalty.

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            • Pacquiao'd
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              #56
              like imhotep said

              No point in debating with a ******* cause there is no cure for mental *******ation.

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              • Hannibal Barca
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                #57
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                Well said, Nike Phats.

                I really didn't want to get into the whole drug testing aspect of Jeff Mayweather's interview, because it's a can of worms. But I feel compelled...and I'm going to make my opinion (relatively) brief.

                PEDs have been used in professional and amateur sports for decades. It's only recently that the "average Joe" has started to care. That's mainly because of what he hears in the media. Once the masses slowly become aware of a problem, the wheels are in motion to do something about it. This potential super fight between Pacquaio and Mayweather might set a precedent to impose stricter drug testing rules in boxing. It all has to start somewhere.

                I don't know if Manny is juicing or not (and I'm not going to dive into that mess of a debate right now). But these are the times we live in. During last year's baseball season, Philadelphia's Raul Ibanez's unusually strong performance prompted one journalist to question whether he might be on steroids. The writer took some heat for raising su****ion without proof. Rightfully so. However, he had a sadly understandable point: nowadays, whenever an athlete performs well beyond normal parameters, his/her performance will be viewed with su****ion. The same can be said about Pacquiao.

                All the drug testing talk aside, I think Jeff Mayweather's comments were intelligently stated and right on the money.
                Excellent post. If I knew how to green K you I would.

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                • OnePunch
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  Why all of a sudden is Mayweather above the rules of boxing commissions and state agencies?
                  Why was Pac when he made up a new weight limit for a WW title fight?

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                  • DiLLiNGER
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                    #59
                    i would suggest to paccy to retire..i mean we gotta respect him for some of the things he did for the sport but after the performance last weekend he would get embarrassed by floyd,just look some of the pictures in between rounds..he looked half dead even tho he hardly got hit.But like jeff said if you want it that bad just take the test.

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                    • mandirigma
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by DiLLiNGER
                      i would suggest to paccy to retire..i mean we gotta respect him for some of the things he did for the sport but after the performance last weekend he would get embarrassed by floyd,just look some of the pictures in between rounds..he looked half dead even tho he hardly got hit.But like jeff said if you want it that bad just take the test.
                      Dont worry he will soon. He is now on some finishing touches..

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