Jeff Mayweather: "If Manny wants the fight, he will step up and take the test"

[JAB5239]

Jab, you overlooked much of what I stated. We have a situation here where many boxing fans -- not just Floyd and his minions -- believe that something is fishy about Manny's rise through the ranks. It's a huge concern in today's sports world. What you're essentially saying is that as long as an athlete can find a way to mask his steroid use under the current testing guidelines, it's just too bad.

You're assuming Pac is masking use of PED's and I just can't agree. I see it as a hugely gifted fighter no longer having to drain himself. NO fighter should be held to a higher standard because of allegations that can logically be disputed.

I agree that the rules ought to be changed before any new testing procedures can be forced on an athlete. But we're talking about a voluntary concession being made as a condition for a mega-fight between boxing's premier fighters.

I honestly think Pac would have submitted had Floyd not slandered him and tried to force his hand. I know I wouldn't bow down to anyone btrying to make me give into anything after they publicly slammed me. Pride and self respect mean more than anything if you honestly believe you have nothing to prove.

Mayweather and Pacquiao can ask for whatever they want in their negotiations. As long as the requests are reasonable and both men are held to the same requirements, they should be honored in the interests of making the bout a reality. I don't see what's so unreasonable about Floyd's testing request, especially in the current environment. Manny's not being forced to do anything; his rights aren't being violated. My point is that Pacquaio should agree to Mayweather's terms if he genuinely wants the fight to take place.

What should be honored my friend are the rules of the sport, and if Floyd genuinely wanted this fight that is what he would do.

I like you Cuban, you're respectful and logical. But we're going round and round here and I don't think we're going to find much common ground with our opinions on this matter.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I like you Cuban, you're respectful and logical. But we're going round and round here and I don't think we're going to find much common ground with our opinions on this matter.

The feeling is mutual on all counts, Jab. We can agree to disagree. Peace.

[Sweetxyience]

If Floyd wants the fight he'll accept the same testing he did in 39 other fights. Unless of course the rules change. If not, Mayweather is the ducker.

Finally someone with some sense...PED's have been around for 10+ years.. where was Floyd then?????? Where were the Floyd fans accusing and discrediting Pacquiao when he was beating Barrera, Morales, Diaz, Marquez, Hatton, De La Hoya and Cotto. I know where they were, they were watching it on PPV.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Finally someone with some sense...PED's have been around for 10+ years.. where was Floyd then?????? Where were the Floyd fans accusing and discrediting Pacquiao when he was beating Barrera, Morales, Diaz, Marquez, Hatton, De La Hoya and Cotto. I know where they were, they were watching it on PPV.

Performance enhancing drugs have been around for 10+ years, all right. Steroids were invented in the early 1930s. Amphetamines were invented in Germany in 1897. These and other PEDs have been around for decades, even a century.

It's not just Floyd's fans that wonder whether Manny might be on steroids or other PEDs. Pacquiao was beating smaller men for years before his star truly rose at the welterweight level. He fought the likes of Barrera, Morales and Marquez at featherweight and super-featherweight. Those fights went the distance or near-distance, with Pac winning, drawing and even losing. One cannot call his performance against these men "dominating."

Then came the quick rise. Manny made a brief stop at lightweight to pick up the belt against David Diaz. Then, in less than six months, he put on 7.5 pounds of solid muscle to dominate and retire Oscar De La Hoya. After that, he dismantled Ricky Hatton with one of the most concussive KO punches ever seen. Next up was Miguel Cotto. Manny walked through the much larger man's punches to deliver a bloody thrashing. In his last "fight," Joshua Clottey was so afraid of his much smaller opponent that he barely threw a punch. Pacquiao has not only retained his punching power as he's risen through the ranks, he's visibly increased it...highly unusual, to say the least.

Now, despite all I've said, I'm not trying to make the case that Manny Pacquiao is on steroids or other PEDs. My point is that there's ample reason to question Manny's recent achievements. And sadly, in today's drug infested sports world, anyone performing at previously unseen levels is subject to su****ion. Mark McGwire recently burst the naive bubble of many baseball fans who thought he hit all those home runs without the use of steroids. I truly hope Manny doesn't break the hearts of his fans by eventually getting caught doping.