Biggest waste of talent? Judah or Toney??

[sebspeed]

Who do you think was the biggest waste of talent?? One thing for sure, both fighters could have been a lot better than what they were. Both fighters lack of discipline made them good but not great fighter.

Toney was so fit when he was a middleweight and now he's a big fat ass.

And Judah had amazing hand speed, a lot of talent, but he wanted to be a gangster and had no discipline.

They both had a good carreer but they could have had a GREAT career.

In my opinion Judah is the biggest waste of talent.

[musiol]

toney was regarded as p4p 1 at the time of the jones fight thats more than zab done

[razor.thin]

zab never had talent.

just because someone is fast and black they are expected to be the best fighter in the world?

[Clyde Barrow]

Toney is still an ATG. Judah fell way short.

[Left2body]

Judah......by far. First off when we are talking about elite athletes Toney wasn't that talented. What Toney had was an extremely high amount of skill which maximized his talent.

Secondly if we now go by the premise of who did the most with their respective careers it would again go to Toney. Just look at his resume and the sheer number of top level fights and you'll see why.

The sad thing about Toney however is that if he had the dietary and gym discipline of a Hopkins, Mosley or PBF he would've been a top 10 ATG.

[sebspeed]

zab never had talent.

just because someone is fast and black they are expected to be the best fighter in the world?

You're right, we're only talking about a guy who had an amateur record of 110 wins for 5 loss and who was regarded by a lot of boxing experts to have the talent to dominate an era in his division.

But well, I agree, he's a waste of talent because he was black and fast !

[sebspeed]

Judah......by far. First off when we are talking about elite athletes Toney wasn't that talented. What Toney had was an extremely high amount of skill which maximized his talent.

Secondly if we now go by the premise of who did the most with their respective careers it would again go to Toney. Just look at his resume and the sheer number of top level fights and you'll see why.

The sad thing about Toney however is that if he had the dietary and gym discipline of a Hopkins, Mosley or PBF he would've been a top 10 ATG.

Great post man, green k!

[tredh]

Judah......by far. First off when we are talking about elite athletes Toney wasn't that talented. What Toney had was an extremely high amount of skill which maximized his talent.

Secondly if we now go by the premise of who did the most with their respective careers it would again go to Toney. Just look at his resume and the sheer number of top level fights and you'll see why.

The sad thing about Toney however is that if he had the dietary and gym discipline of a Hopkins, Mosley or PBF he would've been a top 10 ATG.

Good post agree with everything you said.

But your sig come on man IT'S ALL THE U!!!!!!!!!

[BritishBoxing92]

Who do you think was the biggest waste of talent?? One thing for sure, both fighters could have been a lot better than what they were. Both fighters lack of discipline made them good but not great fighter.

Toney was so fit when he was a middleweight and now he's a big fat ass.

And Judah had amazing hand speed, a lot of talent, but he wanted to be a gangster and had no discipline.

They both had a good carreer but they could have had a GREAT career.

In my opinion Judah is the biggest waste of talent.

Zab Judah...

[jrosales13]

Toney is still a HOFer... He could of been so much greater than what he really is though.

Zab Judah is just so overrated. Had skills but didn't have the chin, mentality, or heart to be anan ATG... Toney did have all that.. Toney just didn't have the descipline.

So I have to go with Toney...