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  • #31
    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    If Floyd, beats Shane. And, Pavlik beats Martinez. And, Pac beats Floyd and Pavlik? Just those two wins?


    I will say top 15... Maybe top 10 arguably top 10.

    That mean he would of won a lineal champ at featherweight and at middleweight. Something that I only think Henry Armstrong came close to do.

    I think that would be 4 lineal titles in 4 of the original 8 weight-classes? I don't think nobody has done that before. That would be a crazy accomplishment.

    If Pac does that he will be up there.
    How about this: Floyd beats Shane, Pac and Pavlik where is Floyd IYO.

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    • #32
      Dear God.

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      • #33
        So Roach says 140-147 is where Pacquiao is more comfortable because now he can eat better and not starve to death. Yet his expert fans call him a Lightweight. Nice.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by *J.U. EvinKess* View Post
          So Roach says 140-147 is where Pacquiao is more comfortable because now he can eat better and not starve to death. Yet his expert fans call him a Lightweight. Nice.
          On top of the fact that Pac out his own mouth said he feels perfect at WW because he gets to eat alot.

          On top of the fact that Pac wanted a third JMM fight at 145....NOT 135.

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          • #35
            Man the WW division must be bad if people consider Clottey a top 5.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S View Post
              I agree and Im not saying he isn't a WW. It's like this.....Armstrong was a FW, but he was also a LW and WW in the sense that he could also be considered the best in all three division. Same with Robinson. He was a true WW but by being able to go up and dominate MW's, even though he could easily make WW, makes him both a legit WW and MW.....if that makes sense.

              Pac is a LW but his talents and recent performance, he is basically a guy who can be dominate in 3 division at any given time.
              Speaking of this, Arum and Ariza have both said that Pac can easily make 135 still. I disagree, but Ariza knows Pac body better than me. And, Arum said that if there is a big money fight at 135 that they would go to LW.

              Then I started thinking. If JMM fights Diaz in Mexico and beats him at 135. Maybe later this year in September we could possibly see Pac-JMM at 135. In Cowboys stadium.... That money might be right if JMM comes down from his crazy 50-50 demand to make that fight happen at 135.

              That would be quite interesting to see actually...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GoogleMe View Post
                Man the WW division must be bad if people consider Clottey a top 5.
                Yeah I said that 100 times leading up to this fight.

                If Clottey is a Top 5 WW then the division is trash.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                  What Im saying is . Thats fine and dandy but hes not a light a weight. Hes a WW fighte who weighed in at a muscular 145 Pounds. Take those 10 Pounds of muscle off then you have a light weight.
                  he was 142 on the day of the weigh in. Again this is without even trying to cut weight. It's not **** to lose 7lbs or waterweight and rehydrate the next day. So he doesn't have to lose "muscle" to make LW.....just like Clottey who fights on fight night at a muscular 160-165lbs can easily lose 13lbs or so of water weight to make 147.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Speaking of this, Arum and Ariza have both said that Pac can easily make 135 still. I disagree, but Ariza knows Pac body better than me. And, Arum said that if there is a big money fight at 135 that they would go to LW.

                    Then I started thinking. If JMM fights Diaz in Mexico and beats him at 135. Maybe later this year in September we could possibly see Pac-JMM at 135. In Cowboys stadium.... That money might be right if JMM comes down from his crazy 50-50 demand to make that fight happen at 135.

                    That would be quite interesting to see actually...
                    Pac already said a third fight will be at 145 Pounds.

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                    • #40
                      It's pretty impressive. I know I'd have laughed at the thought of Pacquiao fighting Cotto or Clottey 2 years ago. People used to talk about Mayweather vs. Pacquiao and I always thought that Pacquiao was too small to fight WWs. Boy was I wrong. I thought even an old DLH would whoop Pac from pillar to post.

                      Pac is a special fighter for sure.

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