Landing 20% of your punches = "A Masterful Performance"?? Ummmmmm...

[Jim Tom]

Jeez. You really are ******. Why would Pac fight Clottey's fight by fighting inside? That would be a tactical blunder.

Pac used all kinds of angles. When Clottey was set to throw his punches after Pac threw his, Pac was gone and about to throw another set of combos from a different angle. Clottey had no choice but to brace himself in his own fox hole until the barrage was over.

Pac got his...yes. He took some chances to get Clottey to open up. But Clottey covered up.

inside fighting. Jesus.

Inside fighting because Clottey can be opened by uppercuts.His hands are open near the elbows.Someone like Mayweather can do that but when you have a runner like Pacquiao he kust keeps sprinting.

How many miles do you think Pacquiao covered in that fight?

[tredh]

I don't see how Pac could've won the way he did without putting on a masterful performance.

Pac put on a shutout against basically a middleweight who is notorious for being tough stylistically for virtually everybody.

That is masterful and I don't see anyone who could do that right now.

We will just have to disagree. I am not saying Manny couldn't put on a masterful performance against Clottey but he didn't because Clottey didn't allow Manny to put on a masterful performance. With the way Clottey fought all Manny had to do is throw punches which is exactly what he did and I respect that. I was most impressed with Manny's stamina more than anything else that happen in that fight.

[PittyPat]

Even the punches that hit gloves, elbows, arms, etc... they all count for something, at least They all break you down.

And if the other guy is just standing there doing nothing, one has to score even blocked punches. The only time to start scoring defence is if the blocker is doing some slick Whitaker/Mayweather stuff.

Calzaghe-Hopkins is another perfect example of having to score activity over defence.

[Cash Cow]

Hitting someone's elbows in an attempt to hit the belly is not the same as hitting the belly.Do your ratios of the punches that connected and you will agree the guy is a hype waiting to be deflated

my point exactly

[El 7 Mares V.2]

my point exactly

So what did you expect him to do man? what do you do against a guy who clearly does not want to fight or engage you? stand in front of him and look at his "masterful" defense? what would Money do? **** he hasn't fought any legitimate Welter so how would we know right?

[Jim Tom]

So what did you expect him to do man? what do you do against a guy who clearly does not want to fight or engage you? stand in front of him and look at his "masterful" defense? what would Money do? **** he hasn't fought any legitimate Welter so how would we know right?

What did you want Clottey to do?all Manny did was run.I hope the compustats will start including distance covered by each boxer.

[keepthemhandsup]

What did you want Clottey to do?all Manny did was run.I hope the compustats will start including distance covered by each boxer.

if someone throws 1000 plus punches someone isn't running. someone is standing their being a punching bag

[El 7 Mares V.2]

What did you want Clottey to do?all Manny did was run.I hope the compustats will start including distance covered by each boxer.

Bro you are one hating mu****a, he stood right in front of Clottey and outpunched him, gave him and angles and never stop throwing, you know nothing about boxing you are nothing but a clown, even your boy Money would be embarassed about the **** you are talking.

[Amazinger]

What did you want Clottey to do?all Manny did was run.I hope the compustats will start including distance covered by each boxer.

Good analysis............er did you even watched the fight Einstein?.

[norrin]

It doesn't make a difference about how many punches a boxer throws because a "boxing match" is all about scoring. Yes, Manny gets credit for the win. No, it was not a masterful performance. The following is the criteria for scoring a "boxing match":

Clean Punching - Manny and Clottey

Effective Aggressiveness - Manny

Ring Generalship - Manny

Defense - Clottey

Although Manny threw more punches and connected more, I don't think he had the cleaner punches. Actually Clottey had the cleaner punches but Manny was more active. There is no doubt that Manny won the fight but I question whether his performance was masterful.