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  • #51
    Originally posted by swizz View Post
    it could of been mayweather pac on 3/13, oh thats rite pac is scare of needles and 1/10th of a milliliter of blood being withdraw would drain him
    Can you imagine how Cotto must have felt at 145? Advantage....? No not Pac....

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    • #52
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      That's a Bull**** cop out excuse because Pac, Floyd, Mosley
      and whoever it is that is making MILLIONS are all greedy and money
      hungry so don't get it twisted. It's obvious to me that Manny wasn't
      ready because Roach said the **** himself.
      i dont think you can assume they are ALL greedy and money hungry. i mean once you have 50 mill in the bank i think some get comfortable. others, like floyd who have a history of IRS problems need the money.
      if shane is so money hungry why didnt he take a few fights this last year instead of holding out on the elite fights? sure an elite fight would make more money, but a few fights for a few mill is more than nothing and for a money hungry greedy person as you assumed, this is what one would do...right?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by WESS View Post
        Can you imagine how Cotto must have felt at 145? Advantage....? No not Pac....
        i dont know if the weight affected cotto but i do know 1/10 of a milliliter of blood does not drain you

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        • #54
          Originally posted by amayseng View Post
          i dont think you can assume they are ALL greedy and money hungry. i mean once you have 50 mill in the bank i think some get comfortable. others, like floyd who have a history of IRS problems need the money.
          if shane is so money hungry why didnt he take a few fights this last year instead of holding out on the elite fights? sure an elite fight would make more money, but a few fights for a few mill is more than nothing and for a money hungry greedy person as you assumed, this is what one would do...right?
          yea because you could lose a big payday if he would of loss any of those lil fights your talking bout so why take the risk, thats why shane waited so long

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly! View Post
            Whats up Amay? I usually dont even get into the whole testing debate, cause as far as I'm concerned. If the commission was looking to better the sport of Boxing with the additional testing then they would've stepped in and said so. So to me more stringent testing perameters are not benifical (monetarily) to the commission so therefore, they could care less. But as a pure fan of Boxing, I myself think that there is NOOOOOOOOOOWAY that you can say "No. I won't subject myself to more stringent testing methods" and then look like a "clean" fighter and expect everybody to look at you as a clean fighter. I say all of that to say this..........Not agreeing to the tests was a whole lot more than about ego, and not letting Floyd enjoy a payday. Just as Pac makes his money Floyd makes his the same way.........By fighting.
            I agree with you completly. Initially I felt that pac was hiding something. If someone called me out for that I would have signed the contract, took the tests, proved to the world i am clean and then whooped on floyd in the ring. however, it is hard to understand a lot of these guys. they are superstars, have more money than god, have power and sway and a mentality we normal folks dont. They are a bit narcissistic and it is hard to say completly what is in their heads. Floyd is obvious, he has said many times recently that he is back for money not legacy or competition. shane states he wants to fight the best and be the best ww in the world. so we can only know what they say. I am skeptical about pac, for his refusal and response that he doesnt even know what a steroid is... my son knows what steroids are, he is 11.
            I dont know, maybe i am internally looking for reasons for a sensible way out for this fight not happening.
            on a more important note, i am looking for mosley to pull through and beat floyd then we can have a war with pac and shane.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by amayseng View Post
              I agree with you completly. Initially I felt that pac was hiding something. If someone called me out for that I would have signed the contract, took the tests, proved to the world i am clean and then whooped on floyd in the ring. however, it is hard to understand a lot of these guys. they are superstars, have more money than god, have power and sway and a mentality we normal folks dont. They are a bit narcissistic and it is hard to say completly what is in their heads. Floyd is obvious, he has said many times recently that he is back for money not legacy or competition. shane states he wants to fight the best and be the best ww in the world. so we can only know what they say. I am skeptical about pac, for his refusal and response that he doesnt even know what a steroid is... my son knows what steroids are, he is 11.
              I dont know, maybe i am internally looking for reasons for a sensible way out for this fight not happening.
              on a more important note, i am looking for mosley to pull through and beat floyd then we can have a war with pac and shane.
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              • #57
                Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                i stopped reading when he said clottey has better defense than mayweather.

                "all floyd does is roll his shoulders, lean back and run". what a dumbass, this is a strenght and conditioning coach and he just showed how little he really knows about boxing.

                the so called running is called lateral movement, comes down to footwork which is one of the keys to being a good fighter. as a fighter u are not supposed to stand in front of your oponent but rather sidestep and always be at an angle. thats moving and is what floyd does along wit all other great pure boxers. running is something entirely diffrent, just trying to stay away from your oponent. trying just to not get hit, floyd tries not to get hit but hits u back aswell. hit and not get hit is what boxing is all about.

                leaning back shows how great his timing and sense of distance is. and hes a master at rolling his shoulders. clottey has good defense but its not on the level of mayweather. hes always there to be hit even if he blocks it, allowing ppl to tee of on him, like pac did for 12 rounds. so he can be outworked, and he alos doesnt present much counterpunching when hes in his defenseive shell. floyd can get of at any time.

                bcuz of floyds ability to make a punch miss by moving out of the way rather than blocking, and then eighter stepping to the side or countering, he wouldnt allow pac to get of his combinations.

                he would just use his height, reach and timing and would frustrate pac on the outside with lateral movement. keeping pac from letting his hands go like he has against all the tailor made oponents who are willing to stand right in front of him.
                COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER AND ITS FUNNY HOW ALL HIS FANS WANT TO SEE HIM FIGHT MOSLEY EVEN IF MOSLEY LOSES, THEY KNOW MOSLEU WILL GO TOE TO TOE WITH HIM WHICH IS ANOTHER OPPONENT PLAYING INTO HIS STRENGTH! NOT TAKING NOTHING FROM PAC HE IS A BEAST BUT IT SEEMS LIKE HE GETTING FAMOUS OFF OF GUYS WHO DONT MOVE, TRY TO SLUG WITH HIM, DONT COUNTER WELL, NO FOOT WORK, NOT REALLY FAST WITH THE HANDS, HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN OR LOSE OR COMING OFF OF A LOSS. IFS LIKE ME ****ING **********S AND CALLING MY SELF A PLAYER...

                HMMM... BUT HOWEVER PAC IS A WARRIOR WONT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIM.

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                • #58
                  Let them think what they wanna think. Take the test or shut up. Saying that Floyd won't fight because of what Manny did to Clottey is just ******. Floyd won't fight Pacquiao because he won't take random blood test. Thats the real reason and I don't blame him. Why is it that team Pacquiao keeps talking about the commision. Did the commision ask for 10 million per pound? Did the commision ask to weight drain Cotto? Pacquiao is fishy and most people know it. Only *******s listen to Ariza.

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                  • #59
                    it will happen !!

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by S A M U R A I View Post
                      Oh yeah? LOL. Who was the last person he beat the hell out of?
                      out box not beat the hell out of floyd has not beat the hell out of many people of late at 135-140 he did but he would get the win pac would not be able to t-off like he did on clottey and he take more shots dealing with footwork and speed is a whole different ball game the last fighter he faced like that was marquez who was only average with it... pac is better now but hes not ready i know boxing i can see it he would get frustrated

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