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  • jrosales13
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    #31
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    No, Duran wouldnt destroy Cotto, Hatton and Clottey. Duran couldnt destroy kirkland laing, so im not just going to give Duran wins just like that.
    Pac would have beat Leanord.
    Duran would of destroyed that version of Cotto... GTFOH with that **** bro...

    I am telling you as a Pac fan at 147, Ray Leonard would beat Manny Pacquiao. As of right now Pac has not done anything to show me how he would be a Ray Leonard.

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      #32
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Duran would of destroyed that version of Cotto... GTFOH with that **** bro...

      I am telling you as a Pac fan at 147, Ray Leonard would beat Manny Pacquiao. As of right now Pac has not done anything to show me how he would be a Ray Leonard.
      But your biased. Pac destroying everyone he fights isnt showing you he would beat SRL? So what would show you? Do you expect Pac to fly or something unreal?
      Is SRL the greatest who ever lived or something. Talk about Pac and SRR at WW, and not SRL.

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #33
        First hes a Top5 ATG, Then hes greater then Pep and now hes better then Duran and Leonard.

        Jeez.

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          #34
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          But your biased. Pac destroying everyone he fights isnt showing you he would beat SRL? So what would show you? Do you expect Pac to fly or something unreal?
          Is SRL the greatest who ever lived or something. Talk about Pac and SRR at WW, and not SRL.
          If i am biased, I will be biased towards Pac don't you think? Since Pac is my favorite active fighter right now.

          And, we are talking about Ray Leonard not Felix Trinidad. Maybe if we were talking about Tito you could have a case about me being biased.

          The fighters that Pac destroyed at the point he destroyed him would also get destroyed by Leonard and Duran. Him destroying the winner of Shane-Floyd or P-Will then I think I might think differently. But, so far he has not showed me that he could beat a Ray Leonard. And, TBH IMO Leonard beats P-Will, Floyd, and Shane. That is how good he was.

          No SRL was not the best ever. But, he is clearly top 5 greatest WWs of all time IMO. Pac is an all time great fighter but not an all time great WW....

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            #35
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            The fighters that Pac destroyed at the point he destroyed him would also get destroyed by Leonard and Duran. Him destroying the winner of Shane-Floyd or P-Will then I think I might think differently. But, so far he has not showed me that he could beat a Ray Leonard. And, TBH IMO Leonard beats P-Will, Floyd, and Shane. That is how good he was.

            No SRL was not the best ever. But, he is clearly top 5 greatest WWs of all time IMO. Pac is an all time great fighter but not an all time great WW....
            See, you are underesstimating Pacs opponents and giving SRL wins over fighters he hasnt earnt. Pac is dominating top boxers, while moving up weights no boxer has done, including SRL. SRL has NEVER totally dominated opponents when he fought top flight. So no reason to say he would dominate Cotto, Floyd and SSM as well. You are of course over estimating how good SRL was, because as good as he was. He didnt dominate guys as good as SSM, Floyd, or cotto.

            Pacs best performances are now at WW. So its not an issue with me whether pac will go down as the best ever WW, after only 2 fights there. He can perform at that weight bottom line.

            SRL would find it hard against Pac, for the same reason it was hard for Cotto, Clottey and Hatton and put DLH in there as well. SRL would find it hard to deal with the speed of Pac and was a bit shy of taking punches as well.
            Last edited by hugh grant; 03-14-2010, 07:08 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              See, you are underesstimating Pacs opponents and giving SRL wins over fighters he hasnt earnt. Pac is dominating top boxers, while moving up weights no boxer has done, including SRL. SRL has NEVER totally dominated opponents when he fought top flight. So no reason to say he would dominate Cotto, Floyd and SSM as well. You are of course over estimating how good SRL was, because as good as he was. He didnt dominate guys as good as SSM, Floyd, or cotto.

              Pacs best performances are now at WW. So its not an issue with me whether pac will go down as the best ever WW, after only 2 fights there. He can perform at that weight bottom line.
              What Pac has done, Jimmy McClarnin did it

              Duran did the same thing

              You missing the point that Ray Leonard would not be moving up in weight to fight Cotto. Matter of fact Leonard would be bigger and faster than Cotto. To think Leonard would not dominate that version of Cotto is insane.

              It idiotic to think Leonard would find it hard against Hatton who was not a good WW, Cotto who was going life and death with Clottey and that version of Oscar...

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              • hugh grant
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                #37
                Bottom line is Pac is a phenomen now, and is seen as such.
                Pac is performing fantastic at WW, and is regarded quite rightly as knocking on the door of GOAT.
                SRL wouldnt beat Pac at WW, but we will never know. He might, but i dont think so.

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                • DondiNeverLeft
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                  #38
                  It was kind of a trick question:
                  First off, for all the *******s that would flood me with red k and would also bring in ALL THOSE OTHER BOXERS NAMES THAT "DID IT TOO", it would show that Pac is not all that special because so many did it too. But the reason they came in here with all those names was to show that Pac can be clean because others have done what he has done.

                  But if they could not find other fighters that have done it too, it would be grounds for doubt.


                  and to the dummy with the unpronouncable(asian) name who red k'ed me, with a reason like (other fighters have won too). Your lost.

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                  • Calilloyd
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    It is very clear, that is why he ignored the questiong and this dude name Hugh Grant does not know what he is talking about either...
                    True and that's why I have him on ignore. He's critisizing a past prime Duran for losing a competive fight with Hagler? He doesn't know **** about boxing or it's history. I can't stand that type of ignorance. If he doesn't know about the history of Duran or Ray Leonard he should just keep his mouth shut instead of looking like a fool pretending that he does.
                    Last edited by Calilloyd; 03-15-2010, 03:21 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      See, you are underesstimating Pacs opponents and giving SRL wins over fighters he hasnt earnt. Pac is dominating top boxers, while moving up weights no boxer has done, including SRL. SRL has NEVER totally dominated opponents when he fought top flight. So no reason to say he would dominate Cotto, Floyd and SSM as well. You are of course over estimating how good SRL was, because as good as he was. He didnt dominate guys as good as SSM, Floyd, or cotto.

                      Pacs best performances are now at WW. So its not an issue with me whether pac will go down as the best ever WW, after only 2 fights there. He can perform at that weight bottom line.

                      SRL would find it hard against Pac, for the same reason it was hard for Cotto, Clottey and Hatton and put DLH in there as well. SRL would find it hard to deal with the speed of Pac and was a bit shy of taking punches as well.
                      Just to let you know ignoramus, Pacquiao has never fought or beaten anybody on the level of Hearns, Benitez, Hagler, or Duran. Cotto and Clottey don't come close to any of those fighters. Leonard beat all of them more convinncingly than Pacquiao beat JMM.And Marquez is not as good as any of those fighters.Pacquiao couldn't beat Ray Leonard at 147 with a loaded handgun. Putting Sugar Ray Leonard on the level of Hatton, Clottey, Cotto, and the past prime Delahoya, is reason enough to put someone as ignorant as you on my ignore list.
                      Last edited by Calilloyd; 03-15-2010, 03:31 PM.

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