Marvin Haglers Birthday

[oldgringo]

I didn't say that they're equal in terms of greatness. I think Hagler is the greater all-time fighter than Jones.

I said that a fantasy matchup between the two at 160 would be pretty even. Jones was a freak of nature at 160 and Hagler was a complete tank. Many things could have happened if they ever were around the same times in their prime. It's not one way or the highway here McKay.

Do you have any evidence to suggest that Roy at 160 would have been killed by Hagler or any other 160 fighter? I'm not talking about his last two fights or anything, I'm talking about prime Roy.

Don't try and dumb it down into, "everything Roy does Hagler will stop" because Haglers not superman you know.

[The Troll]

I didn't say that they're equal in terms of greatness. I think Hagler is the greater all-time fighter than Jones.

I said that a fantasy matchup between the two at 160 would be pretty even. Jones was a freak of nature at 160 and Hagler was a complete tank. Many things could have happened if they ever were around the same times in their prime. It's not one way or the highway here McKay.

Do you have any evidence to suggest that Roy at 160 would have been killed by Hagler or any other 160 fighter? I'm not talking about his last two fights or anything, I'm talking about prime Roy.

Don't try and dumb it down into, "everything Roy does Hagler will stop" because Haglers not superman you know.

The debate never was. Who is the great legend all time. The debate always has been Hagler vs Jones in a fight. And there is no question that Jones would be destroyed by Hagler for all the reasons I have already listed at nauseum.

[oldgringo]

So, we are counting down fighters Birthdays, now?
~~ When fans become stalkers ~~
Jones UD Hagler, on his worse day, and Haglers best day.

This was your extremist post.

"Jones UD Hagler, on his worse day, and on Haglers best day."

I don't know if you were kidding or not, but Jones on his worst day would lose to Hagler on his best day. Any 160 fighter would lose to Hagler in this scenario.

This is why you get in fights with McKay and as214 and whoever else, because this kind of post is extreme and gives no evidence of why you think this certain outcome would happen.

You're free to post whatever you want though...so ill shut up in the future, I just thought I'd let you know what I think.

[The Troll]

This was your extremist post.

"Jones UD Hagler, on his worse day, and on Haglers best day."

I don't know if you were kidding or not, but Jones on his worst day would lose to Hagler on his best day. Any 160 fighter would lose to Hagler in this scenario.

This is why you get in fights with McKay and as214 and whoever else, because this kind of post is extreme and gives no evidence of why you think this certain outcome would happen.

You're free to post whatever you want though...so ill shut up in the future, I just thought I'd let you know what I think.

I give detailed reasons to back up everything I say. Extremely detailed breakdowns.

[oldgringo]

The debate never was. Who is the great legend all time. The debate always has been Hagler vs Jones in a fight. And there is no question that Jones would be destroyed by Hagler for all the reasons I have already listed at nauseum.

Okay well agree to disagree then...

[The Troll]

such as this

bull****. Screw you for criticing me and calling me fanatic and coming out with a fanatical opinion like the one you just expoused. Your the fanatic here. I am the one with common sence. Hagler is smarter than Jones. Hagler is more adaptable than Jones. Hagler can fight in more styles than Jones. Hagler has better stamina than Jones. Hagler is a better boxer than Jones. Hagler has a better jab than Jones. Hagler has a way better chin than Jones. Hagler is better at landing his power shots than Jones. Hagler moves on his feet good, Jones is faster on his feet than Hagler but not overwhelmingly faster. Jones has slightly faster hands than Hagler but not overwhelmingly faster hands. Hagler has excellent defence. If Jones tries do the lunging **** in on Hagler he meets mister hagler right hand jab coming in and than left to follow it up. None of Jones' **** would work against Hagler. Hagler was just too good in every area of the game and too smart and too adaptable.

[The Troll]

And this is what you call an argument and reasoning and a breakdown

It is fanatical to say Hagler and Jones are even. I dont what can be more fanatical than that for the reasons I just explained. Jones is one dimensional compared to Hagler. And Hagler was smarter and would realize he was one demensionable. Plus Jones chin is horrible. If Hagler just attack Jones like he went after Hearsn Jones has no prayer of surviving. He cant get Hagler off of him. Not even John the Beast Mugabi can keep Hagler from coming forward when he wants to come forward and trade. And that side of Hagler is just one of his sides. He can beat you in alot of other ways. And he was smart enough to pick the right way to win each fight. He would figure out Jones and select the proper statagegy. Maybe mauling him maybe jabbing him, who knows.

[IwatchBoxing]

This was your extremist post."Jones UD Hagler, on his worse day, and on Haglers best day."
I don't know if you were kidding or not, but Jones on his worst day would lose to Hagler on his best day. Any 160 fighter would lose to Hagler in this scenario.
This is why you get in fights with McKay and as214 and whoever else, because this kind of post is extreme and gives no evidence of why you think this certain outcome would happen.
You're free to post whatever you want though...so ill shut up in the future, I just thought I'd let you know what I think.

Jones would school Hagler so bad on his best day, that he could aford to lose a few points, or slack off, which is why I say on his worse day he will still win.

[The Troll]

Jones would school Hagler so bad on his best day, that he could aford to lose a few points, or slack off, which is why I say on his worse day he will still win.

YOu see, you got nothing to back your **** talk ******ity up. Why? Because nonsense like this cant be backed up with any facts, logic, or reasoning.

[IwatchBoxing]

YOu see, you got nothing to back your **** talk ******ity up. Why? Because nonsense like this cant be backed up with any facts, logic, or reasoning.

A Hagler vs. Hopkins winner is up in the air, meaning either could win, tho I would favor Hagler since you people seem to think very highly of him, and we all know what Jones did to Hopkins with a broken hand or whatever.