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  • The Troll
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    #21
    Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
    McKay, you can have whatever opinion you wish, but there are PLENTY of people who believe Jones beats Hagler if they fight.
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    There is plenty of people who think eating cow tounge is a delicacy and the claws of chickens.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
      McKay, you can have whatever opinion you wish, but there are PLENTY of people who believe Jones beats Hagler if they fight.



      Hopkins was the champ in that fight, and had just as good experience in the pros up to that point as Roy did. Hopkins' style changed according to who he fought, but Roy got smarter and gained even more experience as well. Hopkins "could" beat Jones, but he wouldn't. There's a reason he gave Jones a somewhat tough fight. First off, Hopkins was already very good whether it was known or he was considered p4p or not. In addition there is the injured hand Roy dealt with. Basically, there's no real reason to think Hopkins would win a rematch. The fight might LOOK different, but Roy would probably win the same amount of rounds.

      Leonard would just not be strong enough to take Jones. Jones is just as fast and Ray would not be hurting Roy. "p4p" you might have a point.

      A prime Roy beats Hearns, Hagler, and Leonard at 160 hands down.. Too dominant.. These Hagler nuthuggers are judging Roy based on his last two fights where he was shot. How do I know this? Because if Roy had retired right after Ruiz there would be no doubt in anyones mind as to what Roy would do against any of those guys.. Timing is everything in life.. Had he retired after Ruiz he'd be mentioned top 3 or 4 pound for pound of all time!! Maybe even higher

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        #23
        Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
        McKay, you can have whatever opinion you wish, but there are PLENTY of people who believe Jones beats Hagler if they fight.



        Hopkins was the champ in that fight, and had just as good experience in the pros up to that point as Roy did. Hopkins' style changed according to who he fought, but Roy got smarter and gained even more experience as well. Hopkins "could" beat Jones, but he wouldn't. There's a reason he gave Jones a somewhat tough fight. First off, Hopkins was already very good whether it was known or he was considered p4p or not. In addition there is the injured hand Roy dealt with. Basically, there's no real reason to think Hopkins would win a rematch. The fight might LOOK different, but Roy would probably win the same amount of rounds.

        Leonard would just not be strong enough to take Jones. Jones is just as fast and Ray would not be hurting Roy. "p4p" you might have a point.

        Hopkins was not the champ. It was for the IBF belt vacated by Toney. Also, Roy himself said that Hopkins became a much better fighter as years passed. I think Jones had tremendous skills, but if they fought again around 2002, Hopkins could have defeated Jones. The fight would have been pretty even.

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          #24
          He (Roid) ducked too many good fighters to be rated anything but an *******!

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            #25
            Originally posted by as214
            A prime Roy beats Hearns, Hagler, and Leonard at 160 hands down.. Too dominant.. These Hagler nuthuggers are judging Roy based on his last two fights where he was shot. How do I know this? Because if Roy had retired right after Ruiz there would be no doubt in anyones mind as to what Roy would do against any of those guys.. Timing is everything in life.. Had he retired after Ruiz he'd be mentioned top 3 or 4 pound for pound of all time!! Maybe even higher
            Jones had such a ***** fighting style his whole career. If he fought Hagler he would try to run like always and pick pat from the outside. But his chin is so glassy, like I said he would be half out of it after Hagler landed 6 right jabs and 1 straight left. And If Hagler comes after Jones in destroyer mode forget about it. The man got dropped by Glen Johnson's destroyer mode. I know since your a nuthugger the losses to the Johnson and Tarver dont count just like some Tyson fans say Tyson's loss to Douglas does not count because he fired Kevin Rooney.
            Last edited by The Troll; 05-24-2005, 01:52 PM.

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              #26
              So, we are counting down fighters Birthdays, now?
              ~~ When fans become stalkers ~~
              Jones UD Hagler, on his worse day, and Haglers best day.

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                #27
                Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                So, we are counting down fighters Birthdays, now?
                ~~ When fans become stalkers ~~
                Jones UD Hagler, on his worse day, and Haglers best day.

                YOu are fuggin moron. Jones is officialy the most ovverrated fighter of all time. That is what being the guy with most fights on HBO of any fighter of all time gets for you. Hagler is better than Jones in every single aspect of boxing except running and pit patting like a ***** to get sleeper UD without landing a single meaningfull punch in the entire bout, like againt Toney.

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                • as214
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  Jones had such a ***** fighting style his whole career. If he fought Hagler he would try to run like always and pick pat from the outside. But his chin is so glassy, like I said he would be half out of it after Hagler landed 6 right jabs and 1 straight left. And If Hagler comes after Jones in destroyer mode forget about. The man got dropped by Glen Johnson's destroyer mode. I know since your a nuthugger the losses to the Johnson and Tarver dont count just like some idiot Tyson fans say Tyson's loss to Douglas does not count because he fired Kevin Rooney.

                  ***** fighting style LOL.. Its called intelligence... Why would you brawl and get hit when you have the skills not to.. Ask Meldrick Taylor how that worked out for him.. And you think Hagler would land 6 right jabs and a straight left on prime Roy in one sequence. Who do you think Roy is Tito? The losses do count to Tarver and Johnson and Roy will hurt in the history books unfortunately for those losses!! But I say again..If a Leonard who hadnt fought in two years who is smaller, slower, and didnt hit nearly as hard as Roy frustrated Hagler just what do you think Roy would do?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by as214
                    ***** fighting style LOL.. Its called intelligence... Why would you brawl and get hit when you have the skills not to.. Ask Meldrick Taylor how that worked out for him.. And you think Hagler would land 6 right jabs and a straight left on prime Roy in one sequence. Who do you think Roy is Tito? The losses do count to Tarver and Johnson and Roy will hurt in the history books unfortunately for those losses!! But I say again..If a Leonard who hadnt fought in two years who is smaller, slower, and didnt hit nearly as hard as Roy frustrated Hagler just what do you think Roy would do?
                    Its called a ***** fighting style. Running and pit patting from the outside is a ***** fighting style. Especically I have seen so many Roy Jones fights that he got the W. But if felt like he did not deserve to win. He fights like he still in the amateures. He will get wide UD in alot of fights without landing a single meaningfull punchin the entire bout. And Jones would try to run from Hagler but it would not work.

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                    • Super_Lightweight
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                      #30
                      lol

                      lol @ McKay. Dude are you on antipsychotics?

                      While on the topic of "glass-chins", I love that iron-chin Golota displayed vs Brewster this past weekend, you simple little man you.

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