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  • MurderDeathKill
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    #101
    Clottey fights nothing like Floyd. I'm sure he's confident of beating Pac. But he's smart enough not to base that on what Clottey did or didn't do against him. Floyd's his own man and will fight his own fight. Last night has no bearing on the matchup other than making it more likely.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #102
      Originally posted by MurderDeathKill
      Clottey fights nothing like Floyd. I'm sure he's confident of beating Pac. But he's smart enough not to base that on what Clottey did or didn't do against him. Floyd's his own man and will fight his own fight. Last night has no bearing on the matchup other than making it more likely.
      What punch did Pac get hit flush with over and over?

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        #103
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        What punch did Pac get hit flush with over and over?
        Pac had no respect for Clottey. He won't fight that way against Floyd. He got away with his recklessness because his opponent had little power and only threw 1 at a time, which his chin could handle. Roach won't train Pac to just attack Floyd like that.

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          #104
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          Pac is very easy to hit. It wont even be close.
          yea but u have to throw alot in order to beat pac which mayweather doesnt do...

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            #105
            Originally posted by MurderDeathKill
            Pac had no respect for Clottey. He won't fight that way against Floyd. He got away with his recklessness because his opponent had little power and only threw 1 at a time, which his chin could handle. Roach won't train Pac to just attack Floyd like that.
            Clottey wasnt only catching him exchanges. He was catching him squared up with lead rights at will. He just wouldn't throw them. Clottey has to go from offense to defense with Mayweather there is no transition its one fluid motion. I dont see how Pac beats Floyd at all. Clottey also lead with....nothing. Not a jab to speak off. He lead with his hands at his ears. Floyd leads with jabs to the body and head and lead rights. Whatever Roach's gameplan is it better involve having a defense for a straight right hand or the fight wont last long. Floyd is on another planet then Clottey,

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            • MurderDeathKill
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              #106
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Clottey wasnt only catching him exchanges. He was catching him squared up with lead rights at will. He just wouldn't throw them. Clottey has to go from offense to defense with Mayweather there is no transition its one fluid motion. I dont see how Pac beats Floyd at all. Clottey also lead with....nothing. Not a jab to speak off. He lead with his hands at his ears. Floyd leads with jabs to the body and head and lead rights. Whatever Roach's gameplan is it better involve having a defense for a straight right hand or the fight wont last long. Floyd is on another planet then Clottey,
              That's what I'm saying. Don't expect the Pac from yesterday to show up against Floyd.

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                #107
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                Skilled counter punchers chop workrate in half.

                I.e.- Floyd vs. Everybody

                Williams vs. Quintana One
                You can't compare Williams to Pacquiao bro lol. Williams throws no where near the speed or angles that Pacquiao is able to get off and land clean effective punches. All Williams had to do was use his reach (which somehow he hasn't been able to do yet at this stage).

                Floyd will be able to counter Pacquiao, that I agree with. But where the trouble lies with Floyd IMO is with Pacquiao's consistency, speed, and angles. Floyd's never been in there with anyone who punches at the volume, combo speed that Pacquiao has.

                But let's get passed May 1st before we talk Pac vs May though. Mosley at 39 is still a live dog with everything to gain and nothing to lose, sometimes those intangibles are deciding factors.

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                • Clint650
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                  #108
                  to quote Roger Mayweather "you dont know **** about boxing". Manny can be hit. thats not a surprise. been watching him get countered since his days @ 130. his offense inproved so much since that it helped his defense. he moves to the side instead of backing up, setting up for more offense. clottey just has really tough defense. he wasn't about to risk an all out war against Manny since he felt he could counter and hide in his shell. his gameplan would be great if the fight was for 20 rounds. what Clottey failed to do in the fight, is what makes the Floyd match up so interesting. There are different strategies to break a fighter down, and theres a big difference between how Manny chooses to break his opponents compares to Mayweather. With a fighter like Clottey, Cotto made himself vulnerable enough to make him open up. same with Zab. Manny's onslought, and Margarito's pressure had Clottey in his shell, countering when possible. those who think Floyd whould have a tough time fail to see how Floyd would choose to let Clottey think he has the better chance to come forward an open up, countering him in return. I love Manny's style, in that he will take one to give one, but he did not show anything new in this fight. He is a machine simple and plain, but until he is in the ring with someone who doesn't compliment his style we will never see a different side of him. The question is, can he adapt. so far he hasn't had to. maybe he will never have to.

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                  • vincevaler
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                    #109
                    Yes mayweather would beat yesterday pac easy, but what makes you guys think he'd fight mayweather the same way he'd fight clottey? That's why they have a coach, watch tapes, and formulate gameplans. jesus...

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by yesir
                      floyd isnt the prob its pac. and after getting hit at will by a no volume puncher like clottey and having most of his punches blocked...im damn sure roach isnt going to put pac in the ring with floyd


                      wtf???

                      the only reason pac got hit with anything was because he was trying to get clottey to try new things instead of standing there with a silly ****ing close guard.nearly every time clottey tried to get manny,manny managed to counter and catch clottey.imho it was a mismatch,clottey struggled and manny made him look slow....really slow.

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