floyd will go into a defensive shell and lose...

[ThePunchingBag]

Floyd will be afraid of getting hit and will be blinded by the speed and aggression.

Pac will bust him up on the ropes.

Watch Floyd's fights.

He gets hit by combinations not single shots or 1-2's.

I don't think Floyd can really hurt Manny. Manny's been hit by much tougher and harder punchers than Floyd. All Floyd can really do is potshot and try to counter, but just like tonight, Pac will take it and throw 5-6 more punches.

[#1Assassin]

let's be serious... if you don't throw punches you can't score.

that's why guys with crazy stamina, workrate, conditioning, and volume punching will beat floyd...

these guys are: pwill, martinez, pac, timothy bradley (possibly)

yes you can, there are 4 criterias of scoring a pro boxing match. defense and ring generalship are two, neighter has anything to do with throwing punches yet they are half of what counts when scoring a fight.

in short, yes you can most certainly score without throwing punches.

speed, timing and boxing IQ beats floyd, what else you want to throw in there is fine but if you dont have those 3 things you cant beat him.

volume punching alone doesnt beat him. pwill and pac cant handle lateral movement and angles, floyd would put that on em and not allow them to get of in numbers. against pac he has the height and reach too, so he can keep him at range aswell.

i would give tim bradley a good chance at beating floyd, martinez a decent one and pwill and pac would make for live underdogs but not much more.

[AdamantiumPI]

I would love to see Pac overwhelm Mayweather but I don't see Floyd crumbling in a defensive shell. Mayweather is a defensive master with matrix reflexes. He won't stand around in a shell.

But for me I think, Pac would win a close fight against Mayweather. Pac's punch output from weird angles as a southpaw would be the key.

[bojangles1987]

He goes into a shell, but he still finds opportunities to throw. He isn't as overly defensive as Clottey, he wouldn't let Pac just tee off like that.

[ThePunchingBag]

I would love to see Pac overwhelm Mayweather but I don't see Floyd crumbling in a defensive shell. Mayweather is a defensive master with matrix reflexes. He won't stand around in a shell.

But for me I think, Pac would win a close fight against Mayweather. Pac's punch output from weird angles as a southpaw would be the key.

Matrix like reflexes? You gotta be kidding me.

His last three opponents were slow as fck.

[BritishBoxing92]

let's be serious... if you don't throw punches you can't score.

that's why guys with crazy stamina, workrate, conditioning, and volume punching will beat floyd...

these guys are: pwill, martinez, pac, timothy bradley (possibly)

floyd isnt like clottey though...he would throw more punches and combinations then clottey did but would have the same kind of defence and time his punches..

[Dynamite Kid]

He goes into a shell, but he still finds opportunities to throw. He isn't as overly defensive as Clottey, he wouldn't let Pac just tee off like that.

Yeah Mayweather looks for spots to work inbetween your punches, Roach himself said how Clottey has a very passive defence and how he lacks the transition from defence to offence, Mayweather might the best since James Toney at turning defence to offence, that said i reckon it would be suicide for him to lay on the ropes, Castillo got the best of Floyd on the ropes imo.

[ThePunchingBag]

floyd isnt like clottey though...he would throw more punches and combinations then clottey did but would have the same kind of defence and time his punches..

Big difference is that Clottey has a more powerful punch and is much tougher physically than Floyd.

I see Floyd getting his rib cracked again if Pac catches him with a good body shot. Or Floyd could break his hands trying to block Pac's shots.

Either way Clottey is a lot more sturdy than Floyd. The only chance Floyd has is counter punching and potshots and we saw today that it doesn't phase or slowdown Manny one bit.

Couple that with Manny being one of the fastest, most accurate punchers Mayweather has ever fought and I don't see how Mayweather survives.

[Boss Don]

Pacquiao is a cheater

[bojangles1987]

Yeah Mayweather looks for spots to work inbetween your punches, Roach himself said how Clottey has a very passive defence and how he lacks the transition from defence to offence, Mayweather might the best since James Toney at turning defence to offence, that said i reckon it would be suicide for him to lay on the ropes, Castillo got the best of Floyd on the ropes imo.

Unfortunately for Floyd he loves laying on the ropes, and we saw against Clottey that Pac has an understanding of how to control his combinations and pick his spots.