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  • Khalid X
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    #11
    Originally posted by RimmyDelicious
    What do you expect? The article is from blacksportsonline, you think you would find on complementary article on Floyd Mayweather at Klansmansportsonline?
    Actually a lot of blacks love Manny. Don't let ***** a$$ black people, like the article writer, think that all blacks feel the same way as him.

    BTW when I say b!tch a$$ black people....I'm talking about the type that sit around all day hating on another person for whatever reason.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #12
      Originally posted by 2501
      Pullcounter by brutal KO, 3 seconds of first round
      I would go and dissect his post but I dont feel like it....

      ah what the hell .....


      Ill do it.

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        #13
        Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
        Actually a lot of blacks love Manny. Don't let ***** a$$ black people, like the article writer, think that all blacks feel the same way as him.

        BTW when I say b!tch a$$ black people....I'm talking about the type that sit around all day hating on another person for whatever reason.
        I'm just saying that to have a website titled "blacksportsonline" or "whitesportsonline" or "yellowsportsonline" etc. etc., I would expect a heavy favoritism towards sportsmen of the corresponding ethnicity and heavy biases against anyone else.

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        • Big Vern
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          #14
          All this *****/******* **** is hella ******ed.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            you know right away they are gonna hate on pac because the article is from blacksportsonline.com. I guess the blacks on that website can't believe that an asian man can be this good at boxing and the pound for pound champ, so they have to downplay pac's accomplishments
            So essentailly you are implying that BLACKS dont like watching Pacquiao? Where did they mention him being Asian at all in that article? You get butthurt when People downgrade Pac's accomplishment but you spent 6 years on Boxingscene downgrading Floyds. Pot. Kettle. Black.





            what utter bull****. floyd didn't dominate dlh from round 5-12. This guy has no idea what a dominant performance looks like. a dominant performance looks like this



            or like this



            in no way shape or form was floyd dominanting dlh. floyd was edging dlh, but it wasn't dominant
            So in pull counters eyes if you dominate someone with boxing sklls its not "dominant". Tell that to Willie Pep or Sweet Pea. Or even Ali. You dont have to fight like a maniac to dominate people. You ever heard of Ivan Calderon? If in a 12 round bout the opponent wins 3 rounds Tops. Is that not getting dominated?







            This guy is a ****in liar and not to be trusted. DLH's official weight was 145 lbs and pac's official weight was 142 lbs. On fight night, DLH's unofficial weight was 147 and Pac's unofficial weight was 148.5 lbs. so what this bastard is confused like most *****s.

            Oscar was still drained and shot. Dont believe me watch the Forbes fight when Oscar got busted up at 150 Pounds by a feather fist.


            This is complete and utter bull****. DLH has always had trouble with speed and southpaws. I don't doubt that DLH wasn't his best on fight night, but to attribute pac's dominant performace to DLH being shot is dishonest and disingenuous. as a matter of fact, its a down right lie.

            What the hell do you mean its a lie? HE WAS DRAINED. He couldnt fight back what part of that dont you understand? Roach said he seen IV marks in his arms and he told Pac to rush him. Even Pacs most die hard fans realized he was drained. Including his trainer. Its time you joined the club.


            If ricky hatton was such a garbage fighter, then why'd it take floyd 10 rounds and joe cortez to beat hatton??? obviously hatton must not be all that bad after


            LMAO. You are kidding right? Styles makes fights bozo. Pac hits harder then Floyd did we need to tell you that? It was also at a weight where Hatton looked strong. He proved that making it tough on the inside for Floyd.They fight different Floyd comes to box and use his movement and defense. Pac comes to use his peed and power. Now using your brain which type of styles has a chance to get the quicker KO?


            What utter and complete sack of lies!!! Hatton after losing to pbf, dominated malignaggi and stopped him, something that even cotto didn't do (the stoppage not the domination).

            Remember, this is hatton at his best weight division 140 lbs... we all seen hatton in trouble against collazo at 147 lbs... The more convincing argument is that floyd fought a blown up jr WW in a division that said jr WW had no business fighting in.

            Malignagii had 2 messed hands and admitted his trainer gave him a ****ty plan. I noticed how you BLATANTLY forgot to mention hatton was almost KO'd by Juan Lazcano a career lightweight. Had the ref not stopped it to tie Hattons boots He could have been stopped.

            So which is it? You said Hatton was blown up vs. Floyd then you turn around and say Pac deserves credit for beating Oscar WHEN in fact Floyd beat Oscar at a bettre weight? Make up your damn mind.


            you can see that this guy used to be a rjj fan and then turned into a pbf fan, what we call a bandwagoner.

            He tries to argue that Tarver's KO punch of RJJ was a lucky punch. I'm not convinced it was.


            This is also a garbage position. cotto didn't all of a sudden fall off because of the margarito fight. that's bull****. cotto is a top tier fighter, and will be in the future. The difference before and after the Margo fight is that cotto's aura of invincibility was exposed. cotto always faded late. cotto could get in trouble if faced with a capable opponent. the difference was that from mosley on, cotto step up the competition and was facing the best at WW... something floyd failed to do as floyd ducked all the dangerous WWs and retired, only to resurface when they all had finished beating each other's brains out. This was floyd's plan all along, let them fight each other and pick up what ever is left over.


            Cotto was not the same fighter after the Marg beating. He doesnt have the same confidence, speed or power. Old Cotto when he gets hit can get up and make stuff happen. The one Pac fought was a shell that ran when he got clocked in the second round. ALSO the fight was at 145.

            So now I should ask Floyd for Tonights Lottery numbers since hes a psychic. How the hell could he have known the outcome of ALL those fights? Then he returns when Mosley is on top after dominating Marg and when Pac this "suposed" killer an ATG is on top. Yeah way to cherry pick Floyd. Pac and Mosley **** On Cotto and Marg.



            this just goes to show you that cotto wasn't shot or on the decline. the thing that changed was our perception of cotto. also cotto and his uncle had a falling out and cotto was effectively training himself for a while now as things had become contentious between the two for a while. Santiago was just the dude that held the pads for cotto.

            Now you you adding more reasons to why the Cotto win was a joke. He had no trainer to go along with being danaged goods and the fight was at 145.

            "Cottos not the same fighter....Marg took something out of him"

            ----Freddie Roach


            "He wasnt well prepared for Pacquaio

            --Freddie Roach



            what utter bull**** revisionist history. If it was 2000 and you said pac could / would make oscar quit on his stool, KTFO Hatton, and tKO Cotto, you'd be laughed at. What pac has accomplished is incredible and when looking back at it, you must look at those accomplishments not only in hindsight from today, but also from the past looking forward to now. then you will have a balanced view and not bull**** so much

            You do the SAME thing with Floyd/ You break down ALL his wins. So stop crying.


            It means that Clottey is a dangerous opponent and not to be dismissed like *****s dismiss him and not to be overlooked and underestimate like other people overlook and underestimate him.

            Clottey has been boxing since 1995 and his best achievement is beating a shot Judah. AFTER Floyd, Baldi and Cotto beat him. Get out of here with that. Hes tailored made for Pac. He has no head movement, hes flat footed, bad stamina, average power, average speed, left hand dominant, and hes a choke artist. Pac should beat him easily. Stop hyping him up as this beast. Hes not. Hes lost to a shot Cotto who had one eye.





            Hell outta here.

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            • Iceta Lives
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              #16
              It's true that Edwin Valero did beat up De La Hoya in sparring though if what I listen to is right.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #17
                I don't have to argue w/ you burner... remember the last time you wanted to debate me and told me to pick a topic. I said fine, let's talk about funeka/guzman. Then you backed out of the debate because you don't know **** about boxing.... bwahhahahhaha!!!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  you know right away they are gonna hate on pac because the article is from blacksportsonline.com. I guess the blacks on that website can't believe that an asian man can be this good at boxing and the pound for pound champ, so they have to downplay pac's accomplishments


                  what utter bull****. floyd didn't dominate dlh from round 5-12. This guy has no idea what a dominant performance looks like. a dominant performance looks like this



                  or like this



                  in no way shape or form was floyd dominanting dlh. floyd was edging dlh, but it wasn't dominant




                  This guy is a ****in liar and not to be trusted. DLH's official weight was 145 lbs and pac's official weight was 142 lbs. On fight night, DLH's unofficial weight was 147 and Pac's unofficial weight was 148.5 lbs. so what this bastard is confused like most *****s.



                  This is complete and utter bull****. DLH has always had trouble with speed and southpaws. I don't doubt that DLH wasn't his best on fight night, but to attribute pac's dominant performace to DLH being shot is dishonest and disingenuous. as a matter of fact, its a down right lie.


                  If ricky hatton was such a garbage fighter, then why'd it take floyd 10 rounds and joe cortez to beat hatton??? obviously hatton must not be all that bad after


                  What utter and complete sack of lies!!! Hatton after losing to pbf, dominated malignaggi and stopped him, something that even cotto didn't do (the stoppage not the domination).

                  Remember, this is hatton at his best weight division 140 lbs... we all seen hatton in trouble against collazo at 147 lbs... The more convincing argument is that floyd fought a blown up jr WW in a division that said jr WW had no business fighting in.



                  you can see that this guy used to be a rjj fan and then turned into a pbf fan, what we call a bandwagoner.

                  He tries to argue that Tarver's KO punch of RJJ was a lucky punch. I'm not convinced it was.


                  This is also a garbage position. cotto didn't all of a sudden fall off because of the margarito fight. that's bull****. cotto is a top tier fighter, and will be in the future. The difference before and after the Margo fight is that cotto's aura of invincibility was exposed. cotto always faded late. cotto could get in trouble if faced with a capable opponent. the difference was that from mosley on, cotto step up the competition and was facing the best at WW... something floyd failed to do as floyd ducked all the dangerous WWs and retired, only to resurface when they all had finished beating each other's brains out. This was floyd's plan all along, let them fight each other and pick up what ever is left over.


                  this just goes to show you that cotto wasn't shot or on the decline. the thing that changed was our perception of cotto. also cotto and his uncle had a falling out and cotto was effectively training himself for a while now as things had become contentious between the two for a while. Santiago was just the dude that held the pads for cotto.


                  what utter bull**** revisionist history. If it was 2000 and you said pac could / would make oscar quit on his stool, KTFO Hatton, and tKO Cotto, you'd be laughed at. What pac has accomplished is incredible and when looking back at it, you must look at those accomplishments not only in hindsight from today, but also from the past looking forward to now. then you will have a balanced view and not bull**** so much


                  It means that Clottey is a dangerous opponent and not to be dismissed like *****s dismiss him and not to be overlooked and underestimate like other people overlook and underestimate him.
                  Good stuff Pull.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                    It's true that Edwin Valero did beat up De La Hoya in sparring though if what I listen to is right.
                    no doubt dlh's weight plan was ******, but i'm pretty sure the southpaw style is something dlh has trouble with, not to mention speed.

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                    • Jerub_Baal
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                      #20
                      hahahaha, your funny man. It's sad to see when all you gotta do is state the obvious to prove a point, but what's gotta be done has got to be done.

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