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  • Mr. Anonymous
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    #11
    Originally posted by ahh!! Low Blow
    Why wasnt there a catchweight for this fight. His last fight , which IMO was a smaller guy naturally than Clottey , he made him come down 2 pounds more , but with Clottey is ok??

    Why is this??

    Is it Cuz Roach knows Pac can handle the opponents weight by now , or is it cu he tought Miguel was a bigger threat.

    Honestly , I tought Cotto was going to be a big test for pac , but it didnt turn out that way.

    I like to think of Clottey as a steping stone. Why exactly u ask. Well , he is a tough mo****er in there and I know that. But to me is his work rate and his mentality. He doesnt do enough. So is a steping stone , not just to move ahead , but a steping stone in the sense , that If you cant beat the laziest(in th ring) elite ww. Then you just dont have a chance.

    the more I look at this fight , the more I have to incline on pac's side. Even tho It would be exciting for the sport , to have the upset , and not to mention I think Clottey deserves it.

    I just dont see Clottey doing enough to finish pac. And we all know he wont get the deciscion. His defense is not going tu hurt pac.


    So anyways. my bad I made it this long , but what do you guys think??

    Does Roach see Clottey slacking enough that he just knew it was going to be an easy fight , the same at 144, 145 or 147?? (Clotteys weight will be well over 155) or not??

    Or does he see Pac , man handling Clottey even being the naturally smaller man. Does he know that Pac can manouver his way to a KO victory even against a tough opponent that will outweight him by at least 10 pounds.

    If he asked Miguel to come down to 145 , Why not Clottey?? Who's defense,chin,strenght,size makes him much tougher to beat.
    This is it!!!!!

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    • ..WaRSpencE..
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      #12
      Typical ******* Answer: "Cotto could have just said No"

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      • DeelDough
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        #13
        Originally posted by JmH Reborn
        I just saw Cotto handle him and make him uncomfortable the first half of the fight. I saw that the exchange in the 4th made Cotto take several rounds to regroup which he took massive damage. He regained his composure is the end of the 9th and 10th and landed a few nice countershots, but at that point his stamina was wasted.

        If that left hook never landed, I think the middle rounds would have never happened the way he did. Cotto didn't have a trainer that commands his respect and that'll tell him proper stuff. Roach on the other corner corrected every mistake Pacquaio made where Santiago acted like a cheer leader. Cotto could have definintely seen the end of the fight but the ref did the job of Santiago. A little more discipline on Cotto's part and who knows. All I know was that the first six rounds sans the KDs were very good rounds.

        I'd like to see it, but @ 147. I hope Cotto's move to 154 is one and done
        Damn 154 , is a whole different game. Not even Tito who had power could box , and had the body to put on a good pounds of muscle was able to do it.
        IMO Cotto is too short

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        • Bennett
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          #14
          Originally posted by ahh!! Low Blow
          Why wasnt there a catchweight for this fight. His last fight , which IMO was a smaller guy naturally than Clottey , he made him come down 2 pounds more , but with Clottey is ok??

          Why is this??
          becuz errbody made such a big stink bout it bout it. im sure even the homelanders got to sayin it too.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #15
            Originally posted by ahh!! Low Blow
            Why wasnt there a catchweight for this fight. His last fight , which IMO was a smaller guy naturally than Clottey , he made him come down 2 pounds more , but with Clottey is ok??

            Why is this??

            Is it Cuz Roach knows Pac can handle the opponents weight by now , or is it cu he tought Miguel was a bigger threat.

            Honestly , I tought Cotto was going to be a big test for pac , but it didnt turn out that way.

            I like to think of Clottey as a steping stone. Why exactly u ask. Well , he is a tough mo****er in there and I know that. But to me is his work rate and his mentality. He doesnt do enough. So is a steping stone , not just to move ahead , but a steping stone in the sense , that If you cant beat the laziest(in th ring) elite ww. Then you just dont have a chance.

            the more I look at this fight , the more I have to incline on pac's side. Even tho It would be exciting for the sport , to have the upset , and not to mention I think Clottey deserves it.

            I just dont see Clottey doing enough to finish pac. And we all know he wont get the deciscion. His defense is not going tu hurt pac.


            So anyways. my bad I made it this long , but what do you guys think??

            Does Roach see Clottey slacking enough that he just knew it was going to be an easy fight , the same at 144, 145 or 147?? (Clotteys weight will be well over 155) or not??

            Or does he see Pac , man handling Clottey even being the naturally smaller man. Does he know that Pac can manouver his way to a KO victory even against a tough opponent that will outweight him by at least 10 pounds.

            If he asked Miguel to come down to 145 , Why not Clottey?? Who's defense,chin,strenght,size makes him much tougher to beat.
            it takes a while to grow into a weightclass....

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            • Va_BoriKua
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              #16
              Originally posted by ahh!! Low Blow
              Damn 154 , is a whole different game. Not even Tito who had power could box , and had the body to put on a good pounds of muscle was able to do it.
              IMO Cotto is too short
              tito beat everyone he faced at 154 he lost at 160

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              • sNiTcH
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                #17
                because few hours from now they will be fighting

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                • johnle43
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  it takes a while to grow into a weightclass....
                  yeah i think thats all it is...anyone know if pac lifts?

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