"poor heavyweight divsion" discrimination against dominant white boxers

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  • Bacatit
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    #41
    Originally posted by Pirao
    I don't think it's about race either, but nationality. Americans have always had competition in the lower weight classes, but they traditionally dominated the HWs. Now they don't, and they don't like it.
    People just aren't intrigued by the division, not because of the klitz but because of their competition.
    Ever heard of Fedor Emilienenko?
    He is a God to many Americans and the only threat to his status as g.o.a.t is Anderson Silva. Although Silva has 4 losses the X factor puts him in a league only Fedora resides in.
    Now look at Brock and tell me you don't see what the hype is about. Brock may never get his just due because Defoe's legacy will remain a dark cloud over his career because the HW division doesn't look as devasting in the UFC as it did in Pride.

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    • Rickety Cricket
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      #42
      they are not american and wlad is boring as hell to watch. tyson era was better and they were mostly americans. thats why america doesnt like heavyweight division today.

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      • Bacatit
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        #43
        Sorry but most boxing fans could give a **** less about the history of the U.S vs Russia

        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        Burner stop it, America's view of the K-bros has alot to do with the U.S's history with Eastern Europe.

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        • Bacatit
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          #44
          Originally posted by Erik18
          No it's mostly because the fighters are boring. Didn't Lewis get critisized too?

          if there was a white guy like Tyson out there right now he'd be the biggest star of boxing.
          The media would do everything in their power to make you forget about Tyson. Tyson would be viewed as nothing more than a savage rapist with a k.o punch.

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          • Bacatit
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            #45
            Originally posted by Pirao
            Excellent post, I agree for the most part.

            Regarding MMA, it's not true that everyone fights everyone, for example Kimbo Slice is being protected because he's a cash cow, Lesnar vs Fedor has not happened even though a lot of people want it, etc. But yeah, the big fights happen a lot more than in boxing for the most part, because most of the fighters fight for the same promotion (UFC), so they fights can be easily made. But that also hurts the fighters because it decreases their earning potential.
            How is Kimbo being protected he's been k.o'd & and submitted by superior fighters since he entered the UFC ?
            Kimbo is fighting James Toney next. That's a heluva way to protect somebody.
            The Houston fight was a cash scheme though but everybody knew that.

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            • The Hammer
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              #46
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Must be why we hate Abraham.

              Oh thats right we dont.
              The same American sportswriters/commentators who hate the Klitschkos are very negative about Abraham.

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              • The Hammer
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                #47
                Originally posted by Bacatit
                How is Kimbo being protected he's been k.o'd & and submitted by superior fighters since he entered the UFC ?
                Kimbo is fighting James Toney next. That's a heluva way to protect somebody.
                The Houston fight was a cash scheme though but everybody knew that.
                It's amazing how every casual sports fan here in Vancouver has heard of Kimbo Slice, yet most have never heard of Wladimir Klitschko.

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                • Glamour Puss
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by slimshandy69
                  Its the truth..tyson era was weaker than wlads era, lennox era was equal if not weaker than vitali current domination, yet because they are white, and the self hating white media are scared that its obvious the eastern block are about to completely take over boxing from middle weight division upwards they denounce it...

                  This is purely down to race...what the klits are doing imo is G.O.AT ****...but because they are white spanking all these black usa boxers in front of millions of people they hate it...

                  Thats the truth...
                  Powerful and truthful post.

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                  • MOTHER DUCKER
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                    #49
                    Tyson era was pretty **** i agree

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                    • The Hammer
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by shade darkar
                      it dont matter if your pink, white, brown, black , alien from space. its just not a loaded division.
                      No matter how much talent there is in the division, the Klitschkos would still be hated by many in the media and the sheeple who listen to them, because of their "unforgivable whiteness".

                      Have you noticed how the American media people like Kellerman, Raskin, Detloff and Atlas were so enthusiastic about Sam Peter a few years ago? Atlas said Peter was going to be the next great heavyweight. Now they are embracing Haye, despite his extremely boring performance against Valuev.

                      The honest truth is, they want a black heavyweight champion and they don't care if he's American or not.

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