Would you concider the winner of Vitali vs Haye

[catalinul]

Vitali is already a great HW win,lose or draw.

If Haye would to win it would be a very good win but it would depend on Vitali's performance since he;s past his best and that could discredit Haye's win.
Also one great win doesn't necessarily make you a great fighter,it would depend on what he would do after.

[Pirao]

I want Haye to fight Wlad, because if he fought Vitali each brother would have 2 titles and we still wouldn't have an undisputed champ. I have no doubts that either Klitschko would KO/TKO Haye, he would be a no better win than Peter, Sanders, Chagaev, Ibragimov or any of the other champions the bros have already beaten, unless he starts fighting and dominating top contenders as the brothers are doing (and no, Ruiz is not one, though I don't think Haye will dominate him either).

[-GDS-]

I don't even believe the Klits. think that Haye is no better than Peter. Anyways, I'm not saying that I think Haye can beat one fighter, retire, and then expect to be great. However, if he beats preferably both of them, some top contenders for a couple of years, and then retires, I don't see how you can say that he wouldn't be the great Heavyweight of our time.

[IMDAZED]

In a word: NO.

[Pirao]

I don't even believe the Klits. think that Haye is no better than Peter. Anyways, I'm not saying that I think Haye can beat one fighter, retire, and then expect to be great. However, if he beats preferably both of them, some top contenders for a couple of years, and then retires, I don't see how you can say that he wouldn't be the great Heavyweight of our time.

If he did it, sure, he would be, but he's not going to do it. His performance against Valuev was an indicator that he's nowhere near the Klitschkos level.

[-GDS-]

It was his second fight at HW where he was outweighed by 100 pounds against a guy who has the height of a NBA center. If he looks unspectacular and Ruiz, then yeah, probably not the goods then.

[Pirao]

It was his second fight at HW where he was outweighed by 100 pounds against a guy who has the height of a NBA center. If he looks unspectacular and Ruiz, then yeah, probably not the goods then.

I don't care if he was outweighed, Holyfield (47 year old Holyfield) did the same Haye did except he got robbed by the judges, if that's the best Haye has he'll get starched against the Klitschkos.

Anyways I'm not going to continue arguing since you have your opinion and I have mine, time will tell (if Haye ever mans up and fights a Klitschko of course).