Wlad has sold out a football arena for the 2nd consecutive time

[The_Demon]

watching paint dry is germanys favourite past-time

i have never seen so many people create so little atmosphere as they do over there,its like a graveyard with 50,000 people in

[shade darkar]

50k seats, sold out. Not bad for a boring fighter, right?

Hey Haye fans, the ones who said Wlad only sold out against Chagaev because of Haye, where are you now?

that Aint ****. hatton did more than that against a bum.

[Easy-E]

Wlad bores me. As a boxing fan I want to see him fight Haye. Almost every other fight has no meaning. The division is terrible. At least Haye has injected a bit of excitement into proceedings. A lot of people, especially in the US, will have only seen the Valuev fight, which is quite misleading. Haye did what he had to do; Valuev has a huge, hard head and going in and trying to blow him over would have resulted in Haye gassing himself out, tiring down the stretch and probably losing a decision in (what was perceived to be) a hostile judging environment. Instead he boxed, moved, which isn't generally his forte, but he pulled it off and took home the title.

Btw, no one is really dis*****g Wlad is a huge draw in Germany. He obviously is.

Its not that Wlad is boring, becuse I understand the stylistic advantages that he poseses. It is that he has no killer instinct. He had opponents hurt, the ability to finish them earlier but he is concerned about opening up in the slightest fashion because he does not want to get caught.

[Pirao]

watching paint dry is germanys favourite past-time

i have never seen so many people create so little atmosphere as they do over there,its like a graveyard with 50,000 people in

Call me when Haye can sell 50k against John Ruiz.

[The_Demon]

Call me when Haye can sell 50k against John Ruiz.

5k fans watching haye fight create more of an atmosphere than 50k germans watching wlad jab-jab-hug-jab.that really says something

i know you are on the klitschkos nuts and everything,thats all well and good more power to ya,but dont pretend they are something they are not-you will just embarress yourself further

[Kilrain]

Its not that Wlad is boring, becuse I understand the stylistic advantages that he poseses. It is that he has no killer instinct. He had opponents hurt, the ability to finish them earlier but he is concerned about opening up in the slightest fashion because he does not want to get caught.

The fact that he has no killer instinct makes him boring. This is boxing for christ's sake. It's also not just because he doesn't wanna get caught, he doesn't want to gas himself out either, like he did in the first Brewster fight. A heavyweight should throw more power shots, not just jabs. He's not interesting to watch, IMO, and that is why I want to see Haye knock him out. Because Haye is an exciting fighter (Valuev fight excluded, though I was pretty excited that he could rock that man-mountain with a BROKEN HAND)

[Pirao]

5k fans watching haye fight create more of an atmosphere than 50k germans watching wlad jab-jab-hug-jab.that really says something

i know you are on the klitschkos nuts and everything,thats all well and good more power to ya,but dont pretend they are something they are not-you will just embarress yourself further

Embarrass myself further? I'm not the one coming up with pathetic excuses like "oh the german fans don't create a good atmosphere, Haye fans do".

Wlad>>>>>>Haye both as a fighter and as a draw.

[Kilrain]

Its not that Wlad is boring, becuse I understand the stylistic advantages that he poseses. It is that he has no killer instinct. He had opponents hurt, the ability to finish them earlier but he is concerned about opening up in the slightest fashion because he does not want to get caught.

Embarrass myself further? I'm not the one coming up with pathetic excuses like "oh the german fans don't create a good atmosphere, Haye fans do".

Wlad>>>>>>Haye both as a fighter and as a draw.

In Germany, yes. Obviously that's Wlad's adopted nation. If they fought in Wembley, meaning Wlad and Haye fight, you'd get tens of thousands of fans showing up to watch Haye, a British fighter, unify the belts. So you've kind of got a mute point.

[Hitman932]

Call me when Haye can sell 50k against John Ruiz.

Haye cant get 20K for one of his fights much less 40 or 50.

[True Guru]

my point is germans must like boring boxers?

When did Ottke sell out 50,000 again?