Comments Thread For: Roach: We Want The Mayweather-Mosley Winner Next

[counterpunch]

Choose from Andre Berto or Devon Alexander first, I guess they're waiting.

[boxer2k5]

Manny's legacy will go down as better than Floyd's



All Floyd cares about is the almighty dollar

you or legacy dont feed floyd kids. you talk about legacy to those old beat up
boxers that cant feed themselves but gave everything in the ring yet they are only remembered by a few. yeah legacy is good but yell tell ali about legacy
he cant even say hi to his grandkids. selffish bastards. if you dont like floyd dont talk bout him or dont watch him simple as that. but let him choose how to feed his kids.

[1nonlymre]

you or legacy dont feed floyd kids. you talk about legacy to those old beat up
boxers that cant feed themselves but gave everything in the ring yet they are only remembered by a few. yeah legacy is good but yell tell ali about legacy
he cant even say hi to his grandkids. selffish bastards. if you dont like floyd dont talk bout him or dont watch him simple as that. but let him choose how to feed his kids.

Nope, as usual, this type of argument is flawed.
Floyd himself said that he fights for money, not legacy.
Well, the argument that we don't feed floyds kids is even flawed. ****, we pay for the PPV that provide him money, so that's flawed already.
Secondly, take Holyfield...dude made millions....MILLIONS!!! I could care less. I remember his as a former great fighter who was one hell of a warrior with heart. His legacy is sealed as far as I'm concerned. That he squandered his money is his thing.
Floyd talks about how money is important, but a couple of sentences later he gets totally defensive against anyone who doesn't kowtow to him and proclaim him the best in the sport today. Yet, he doesn't prove that he still has the skills.
However, he has a chance to do just that come May 1st. If he overwhelmes Mosley and beats his ass, then he has a lot to talk about in the welterweight division. He dominated in lighter classes, making fighters look weak and boring while he looked slick and dangerous.
Not so in WW, now he's the one who is boring. Skills pay the bills, he says, but they must also prove you are indeed as great as you perceive yourself.
And I love me the boxing technique, don't get that twisted. It's not like I want to see sluggers in there alone (leave that to MMA), but with boxing you must step up and show your balls from time to time and put folks in great danger/to sleep.
If floyd doesn't do that, he won't ever get the respect he garnered in lighter weight classes.

Truth...the guy is riding on his own coattails, and until the majority of people realize that, or until he proves that he is just as deadly in the WW division, then he will continue to ride his coattails and have the public believe that he is still as dangerous as he once was.

[amayseng]

you or legacy dont feed floyd kids. you talk about legacy to those old beat up
boxers that cant feed themselves but gave everything in the ring yet they are only remembered by a few. yeah legacy is good but yell tell ali about legacy
he cant even say hi to his grandkids. selffish bastards. if you dont like floyd dont talk bout him or dont watch him simple as that. but let him choose how to feed his kids.

like he is poor?? he has been ducking the best while making millions the last few years.

[GRUSTLER]

Damn Grust...I'ts too early in the morning to be breaking **** down like that! Best comment yet.

I mean, this has to end. Roach, Manny and Arum are making
an ass out of Pac's fans and supporters by making up this
bull**** constantly. I'm just trying to shed some light on the
Pacsheeps to stop following these sheperds that are leading
them in the wrong direction. Anyone with half a brain knows
that Roach, Arum and Manny want nothing to do with Floyd
Mayweather Jr. Their just trying to save face because Floyd
got the one up on them with the Mosley fight and will out do
Pac's fight with Clottey in everyway. The new BILLION dollar
stadium, all this hype but Pac/Clottey didn't even get a
24/7? Freddie is so mad that Pac is fighting Clottey to
the point that he is blatantly saying Clottey ain't ****.
Pac is angry because of his honor? Wasn't he angry about
it when the negotiations were going down? Why didn't he
just sign the contract? That's what fighters are supposed
to do right? Proved that they are the best. Anyone who
says Floyd ducked Manny and or dosen't want to fight Pac
is a MORON. I'm tired of this BS, the kiddie gloves are off.

[jtiger78]

All he had to do is that? bwahahahha...you call that an "agreement" wherein the Pacquiao camp can easily say also:

•*All Mayweather has to do....is not to demand a blood test that is unprecedented.

then the usual retort:

• I've accepted the 10 million a pound requirement but Pacquiao didn't accept my demands?

then Pacquiao would then say:

• "I am the P4P champ and you have a lot to do to catch up....you're not the commission..."

then Mayweather would say:

• "I am the face of boxing and a household name...you're not!"

The bottomline is that both didn't make it into an AGREEMENT. Both sides but if anything, Pacquiao's status speaks and acts louder and therefore Mayweather coming out of "retirement" after almost two years to fight a bloated Marquez would have to at least come down to have an agreement.

If Mayweather beats Mosley and Pacquiao beats Clottey...

The pressure will be against both fighters to make it right. I think the NSAC should now step in and make the foundation and structure towards an agreement.

understood but why even bring up the possibility of a fight anymore after you stated your not going to take the test??? why every week do we have to read about roach and pac imitating or fighting floyd if they are not going to adhere to floyds demand?

[Ray*]

Are they willing to go through random drug testing? If not they better start praying for a Mosley win.

[slipjab73]

You should not call people name's.But having said that I kind of agree with this post.I look at legacy.Sugar ray leonard made butt loads of money but no one talk's about that with him.It's alway's been about who he has fought.LEGACY PEOPLE IT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

Legacy won't pay your medical bills and provide for your family when your health starts to fail after fighting all those ring wars. Ask a guy like Gerald McClellan if legacy means anything to him after he sustained serious brain damage when he fought Nigel Bend in 2005. Boxing is serious business. You are putting your life on the line in that ring and seeking as much compensation as you can is the only way to think. All it takes is one bad night and one hard blow to the head to end it all. Tell me what legacy will do for you when you can't even say your own name let alone recognize who you are?

[FRESHMC2]

why is roach talking about the next fight already? the clottey fight is on saturday, they should worry about clottey, after saturday they can talk about facing the winner of floyd vs shane...

[slipjab73]

Nope, as usual, this type of argument is flawed.
Floyd himself said that he fights for money, not legacy.
Well, the argument that we don't feed floyds kids is even flawed. ****, we pay for the PPV that provide him money, so that's flawed already.
Secondly, take Holyfield...dude made millions....MILLIONS!!! I could care less. I remember his as a former great fighter who was one hell of a warrior with heart. His legacy is sealed as far as I'm concerned. That he squandered his money is his thing.
Floyd talks about how money is important, but a couple of sentences later he gets totally defensive against anyone who doesn't kowtow to him and proclaim him the best in the sport today. Yet, he doesn't prove that he still has the skills.
However, he has a chance to do just that come May 1st. If he overwhelmes Mosley and beats his ass, then he has a lot to talk about in the welterweight division. He dominated in lighter classes, making fighters look weak and boring while he looked slick and dangerous.
Not so in WW, now he's the one who is boring. Skills pay the bills, he says, but they must also prove you are indeed as great as you perceive yourself.
And I love me the boxing technique, don't get that twisted. It's not like I want to see sluggers in there alone (leave that to MMA), but with boxing you must step up and show your balls from time to time and put folks in great danger/to sleep.
If floyd doesn't do that, he won't ever get the respect he garnered in lighter weight classes.

Truth...the guy is riding on his own coattails, and until the majority of people realize that, or until he proves that he is just as deadly in the WW division, then he will continue to ride his coattails and have the public believe that he is still as dangerous as he once was.

How much legacy does Holyfield really have when he can't even form a decent sentence now after taking all those head shots. Mayweather doesn't have to fight a fight that suits you because you are not in the ring, he is. His style wins fights and that's what counts. If his skill level was so bad don't you think he would have lost to his not so dangerous opponents by now? Every fighter has a style that is unique to them and that works for them. If you don't like the way Mayweather fights, don't look at his fights. If you don't like the fact that he puts money as his top priority that's ok too because its his perogative. Some people are motivated by money and other's by legacy. There is no right or worng way of thinking, it all depends on your value system.