Why is it that anyone that believes Pac is su****ious...

[sigrab]

I mean Manny's actions are su****ious.
That does not mean he is on roids or hgh, it meants that his actions are su****ious ones.

Many *******s cannot handle anyone questioning or commenting on their hero in a less than obsessively positive manner.

Good post.

But it's pretty obvious that opinions about Pac's su****ious behavior varies from person to person and I don't think opinions would be swayed by threads like this one in particular.

So what's the point?

This issue's been discussed at least a thousand times already, give or take a few.

[Allucard]

in a court of law, refusal to take a lie detector test doesn't make you a suspect. to be a suspect the cops have got to somehow place you at the scene of the crime either through hard evidence or eyewitness

True. But it does call for further investigation. No one's gonna let you out if that's all you have.

[Einstien]

that's not a valid grounds of su****ion... a valid grounds of suspecting someone of PED use is having Victor Conte as your strength and conditioning coach.

pac's incredible climb throught the weights are explainable:

1) pac's ring IQ is increasing
2) pac's skillset is increasing
3) pac has been growing and has finally reached his maximum atheletic potential
4) all of pac's opponents have flaws that can be exploited

and if you like

5) superior top rank matchmaking

The funny thing to me and maybe many more who read this post is you find your 1-5 post more believable than the fact that Pac is simply su****ious.
Im sorry it does not add up.

[ummeed]

Personally I find it ridiculous when Pac defenders say there is no grounds for su****ion when the very reason they worship him is the answer.

If he moved up in all those weights and barely won, or loss power in a win or loss, or got Koed he would have been the typical wieght climbing fighter...but that did not happen did it?
He climbed weight classes and became stronger and stronger and faster and faster, (the reason you idolize him is the reason for su****ion).

really now? all it takes is a single gif just to expose how primitive your logic, reasoning and debating skills are? your argument as to how pacquiao is supposedly taking PEDs is because he is constantly improving and that *******s are worshipping him?

whatever happened to boxing aptitude my man? managing exploit your opponents to open up by using weird angles? footwork? balance? not needing to drain himself to make weight? confidence build-up? developing that right hand?

you were bitter before the cotto fight and you are even more bitter now, i understand but please the next time you try and start a discussion, try have a bit more ammo behind your emotions, ya dig?

[BuckToothed]

Totally agree.
Thats like saying a plumber is afraid of pipes, a carpenter is afraid of wood, a welder afraid of metal...makes no sense.

I know of a pilot that has a fear of heights, so does that throw your logic off?

Floyd's fear of Pac is not the same fear as someone putting a gun on your face during a holdup, but more like a fear of losing your money during.

[Pullcounter]

Wouldn't Floyd be a suspect if he refused random PED testing? How about if Floyd said ok and then changed his mind, wouldn't he be a suspect then? ok, so how about if Floyd said drawing blood 24 days before the fight would make him weak but then proceeded to draw blood 20 days before his alternative fight, wouldn't he be a suspect? so you are really ****** huh? ok, so how about if Floyd went all the way from 106 to 147 knocking people out better as he got older and heavier, had giant hands and head, wouldn't you think he could be on something? PACQUIAO CHECKS FOR ALL THESE. HE ISNT A SUSPECT. RIGHTTT!

if the cops come to your house, tell you they are looking for someone that vaguely looks like you and ask you if they can come inside and you tell them they can't, does that make you su****ious enough that they can arrest you?

[Allucard]

Oh, Michael Jackson (RIP) WAS a suspect pedophile. He was absolved in the court of law. Would you trust your little daughter or sis under his care, was he still alive?
Boxers risk their lives, you do the maths.

[Einstien]

in a court of law, refusal to take a lie detector test doesn't make you a suspect. to be a suspect the cops have got to somehow place you at the scene of the crime either through hard evidence or eyewitness

You are right but our Justice system is totally different from the forum of public opinion.
No convictions here but su****ion is a sort of guilty verdict.

[Pullcounter]

The funny thing to me and maybe many more who read this post is you find your 1-5 post more believable than the fact that Pac is simply su****ious.
Im sorry it does not add up.

right... cause an asian boxer can't be that good without PEDs and only black fighters can only be p4p #1...

[ummeed]

True. But it does call for further investigation. No one's gonna let you out if that's all you have.

you really believe that?