Why is it that anyone that believes Pac is su****ious...

[Allucard]

..is a "*****" or "Cottard"?

How about Pac is simply fishy and thats it?
IF anyone wants to accuse Floyd or Cotto or any fighter for that matter, then go right ahead, I wont be calling you a ******* if you have a legit case.

Well if you refuse to be tested for PEDs and your defense sounds fishy, you change your story multiple times (Roach had no problems with the random testing before Floyd said he'd do it) and despite your opponent agreeing to the 10 million penalty per extra pound you still cancel the fight and book someone who won't demand random blood tests, then you ARE A SUSPECT.

[Pullcounter]

Personally I find it ridiculous when Pac defenders say there is no grounds for su****ion when the very reason they worship him is the answer.

If he moved up in all those weights and barely won, or loss power in a win or loss, or got Koed he would have been the typical wieght climbing fighter...but that did not happen did it?
He climbed weight classes and became stronger and stronger and faster and faster, (the reason you idolize him is the reason for su****ion).

that's not a valid grounds of su****ion... a valid grounds of suspecting someone of PED use is having Victor Conte as your strength and conditioning coach.

pac's incredible climb throught the weights are explainable:

1) pac's ring IQ is increasing
2) pac's skillset is increasing
3) pac has been growing and has finally reached his maximum atheletic potential
4) all of pac's opponents have flaws that can be exploited

and if you like

5) superior top rank matchmaking

[disolly]

For all it's worth, I truly believe that Pac just doesn't want to be pushed around.

It's a lot of money like you mentioned but Pac's got enough money right now that would last him and his family a few lifetimes in the Philippines.

This argument would all boil down to "we could agree to disagree."

I am a huge pac fan, and i agree with you on the being pushed around. unfortunately for him someone with no proof accused him and now a lot of people are su****ious, and i would like to see him do the testing for his next fight just to prove that he is 100 percent clean.

[Easy-E]

I mean Manny's actions are su****ious.
That does not mean he is on roids or hgh, it meants that his actions are su****ious ones.

Many *******s cannot handle anyone questioning or commenting on their hero in a less than obsessively positive manner.

[Pullcounter]

Well if you refuse to be tested for PEDs and your defense sounds fishy, you change your story multiple times (Roach had no problems with the random testing before Floyd said he'd do it) and despite your opponent agreeing to the 10 million penalty per extra pound you still cancel the fight and book someone who won't demand random blood tests, then you ARE A SUSPECT.

in a court of law, refusal to take a lie detector test doesn't make you a suspect. to be a suspect the cops have got to somehow place you at the scene of the crime either through hard evidence or eyewitness

[Pullcounter]

I mean Manny's actions are su****ious.
That does not mean he is on roids or hgh, it meants that his actions are su****ious ones.

Many *******s cannot handle anyone questioning or commenting on their hero in a less than obsessively positive manner.

see, the problem is a lot of *****s talk like pac is already guilty

[Allucard]

Wouldn't Floyd be a suspect if he refused random PED testing? How about if Floyd said ok and then changed his mind, wouldn't he be a suspect then? ok, so how about if Floyd said drawing blood 24 days before the fight would make him weak but then proceeded to draw blood 20 days before his alternative fight, wouldn't he be a suspect? so you are really ****** huh? ok, so how about if Floyd went all the way from 106 to 147 knocking people out better as he got older and heavier, had giant hands and head, wouldn't you think he could be on something? PACQUIAO CHECKS FOR ALL THESE. HE ISNT A SUSPECT. RIGHTTT!

[Einstien]

when its a ex crack dealer accusing you, i dont think so. Though i do agree no matter who pac faces next he should do random blood testing up to 10 days before the fight, to prove he is clean to everyone. or he will always have the doubters. for manny though it does suck that all these people became su****ious because some dumbass accused him with no proof.

Personally I dont care what the credentials of the person making the accusation is...If it makes sense then I can draw that conclusion on my own.

I also dont care who Pac is fighting when and if he decides to prove he is clean. I just would like to KNOW he is clean. Has nothing to do with Floyd.

I dont know how people act as if Floyd Sr is god and can "make people believe" Pac is on something ...believe me most were smart enough to see the obvious su****ion.

[M.I.C.]

..is a "*****" or "Cottard"?

How about Pac is simply fishy and thats it?
IF anyone wants to accuse Floyd or Cotto or any fighter for that matter, then go right ahead, I wont be calling you a ******* if you have a legit case.

I suggest its because they have an emotional attachment to Pac, they cant see stringent drug testing as a simple athletic protocol, they can only translate anything Pac doesn't like as an attack on his character.

[Einstien]

Well if you refuse to be tested for PEDs and your defense sounds fishy, you change your story multiple times (Roach had no problems with the random testing before Floyd said he'd do it) and despite your opponent agreeing to the 10 million penalty per extra pound you still cancel the fight and book someone who won't demand random blood tests, then you ARE A SUSPECT.

You sir ..should take a bow.