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  • Dynamite Kid
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    Why Cotto took such beating against Pac, Marg etc......

    Why Cotto took such beating against Pac, Marg etc...


    Cotto's biggest issues stem from his stance imo.

    Cotto put too much weight on his lead foot, now this is good for cranking up the left hook and getting power into it, problem with that is, it leaves you wide open up the middle to uppercuts because your leaning in, Cotto also fought flat footed most of the time and that is okay for generating maximum power but problem with that is, when a punch is thrown at you its more difficult to avoid when you are flat footed and putting too much weight on your lead foot because you cant distribute your weight quick enough to get out of the way of it. Cotto also fought to square.


    Cotto also held his left glove too high IMO, now that a sounds ridiculous thing to say but the reason i say that is because it obscured his vision to right hands when moving to his left, if you watch the Margarito fight you will see how Marg exploited this and his stance, Marg started stepping to Cotto's right and cranking the right hands and because Cotto had that glove high it obscured his vision to see those right hands, Marg then exploited his stance by painting him with double uppercuts, which is a punch his style was most vulnerable to, when Marg doubled the uppercut it would jar his head up outta his gloves then he would come over the top with booming rights.
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    Add a little bit of Plaster and PED'S for his opponents ,and you have you're self a combination for Disaster for the opposing Person

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      Originally posted by Holliday
      Add a little bit of Plaster and PED'S for his opponents ,and you have you're self a combination for Disaster for the opposing Person
      True. I remember Capetillo kept reminding Marg to throw the right hand, at one point he said stop looking for one punch, why would a relatively moderate puncher like Marg be looking for one punch.

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        I like the analysis I thought it was gonna be a troll thread but what you said made sense, green k

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          well i didn't read your post... too long. it's 9am and im still sleepy.. but i will say this he has a type of skin that easily swells up and thats why he looks so ****ed up and like he took really bad beatings. he's also very prone to cuts... his type of skin is the reason for the way he looks.

          that's why it shouldn't indicative of whether he's shot or not.

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            Originally posted by Akyra
            well i didn't read your post... too long. it's 9am and im still sleepy.. but i will say this he has a type of skin that easily swells up and thats why he looks so ****ed up and like he took really bad beatings. he's also very prone to cuts... his type of skin is the reason for the way he looks.

            that's why it shouldn't indicative of whether he's shot or not.
            Thats a fair point, he did not visibly look the same person after the Marg win, i talking about in the face.

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            • AllEyesOpen
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              #7
              Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
              Why Cotto took such beating against Pac, Marg etc...


              Cotto's biggest issues stem from his stance imo.

              Cotto put too much weight on his lead foot, now this is good for cranking up the left hook and getting power into it, problem with that is, it leaves you wide open up the middle to uppercuts because your leaning in, Cotto also fought flat footed most of the time and that is okay for generating maximum power but problem with that is, when a punch is thrown at you its more difficult to avoid when you are flat footed and putting too much weight on your lead foot because you cant distribute your weight quick enough to get out of the way of it. Cotto also fought to square.


              Cotto also held his left glove too high IMO, now that a sounds ridiculous thing to say but the reason i say that is because it obscured his vision to right hands when moving to his left, if you watch the Margarito fight you will see how Marg exploited this and his stance, Marg started stepping to Cotto's right and cranking the right hands and because Cotto had that glove high it obscured his vision to see those right hands, Marg then exploited his stance by painting him with double uppercuts, which is a punch his style was most vulnerable to, when Marg doubled the uppercut it would jar his head up outta his gloves then he would come over the top with booming rights.
              Very Insightful, excellent thread. Personally I think if he had a tighter guard i.e. Clottey style he would do well, he gets so offense oriented that he forgets or just chooses not to protect his chin. Also I think all the things you mention would have been things Cotto could have improved on after the Margarito fight, if he had a proper trainer.

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              • AllEyesOpen
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                Also I'm one of the few who believes Cotto has always had these flaws even at 140 lbs, no one really capitalized on it til he started fighting better quality opponents at welterweight.

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                • PB32
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                  Well let's not make Pacquiao ad Margarito look like supermen here. We're forgetting that even Corley rocked Cotto. Torres, a Judah coming off a year and a half lay off+two losses(Baldomir and Mayweather) busted up Cotto pretty bad even sent him to the hospital afterwards. Also Mosley landed more power punches on Cotto than anyone has up to that fight and he also landed them very cleanly.


                  It was just a matter of time, not opponents, that Cotto's defenseless/wreckless all offensive style was going to meet the grimm reaper. You can't possibly take as much punishment as Cotto did at a young age with his poor defense, and stay as an elite fighter. Not to mention he never had the best chin to begin with.


                  Not hating just saying my opinion.

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                    Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                    Very Insightful, excellent thread. Personally I think if he had a tighter guard i.e. Clottey style he would do well, he gets so offense oriented that he forgets or just chooses not to protect his chin. Also I think all the things you mention would have been things Cotto could have improved on after the Margarito fight, if he had a proper trainer.
                    Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                    Also I'm one of the few who believes Cotto has always had these flaws even at 140 lbs, no one really capitalized on it til he started fighting better quality opponents at welterweight.
                    Cheers, agree on what you said to.

                    Its weird because ive tried to tell people before that Cotto does have decent defense, when i say that i mean he had the right kinda upper body movement and rhythmic ability to slip punches at times, but i guess strictly speaking no matter how you go about avoiding punches the basis for having a decent defense is essentially not getting hit, period, this is why i think Cotto's stance played a big part in his leaky defense, i think Cotto did the right things to be defensively good in terms of slipping etc but because his stance was so vulnerable that got overrided and he took punishment in the ring at times.

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