Without getting into all the ******ness this thread is filled with. To answer the TS question, YES. I do believe Fraud will never dare step in the ring with Manny no matter how much money he is offered. Money won't help spare his embarassment loss or the fact that we won't have to go into endless debates about whose better anymore. It will be CASE CLOSED, see u never again Fraud!
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If pacquiao knocks clottey da fux out, floyd will NEVER fight pacquiao...
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Originally posted by Nike Phats View PostYou assume I care who was voted what by subjective and opinionated peoples? I can form my own thoughts and conclusions as I see things through my own eyes.
Anyhow, answer the question if you will.
beat barrera as +795 underdog when barrera was #3 p4p and in their rematch.
he beat Lehlohonolo Ledwaba who was 33 - 1 and the #1 ranked Superbantam.
he knocked down marquez 4 times and won their last fight.
he beat morales 2 out of 3.
he destroyed an undefeated Jorge Solis.
he destroyed david diaz 34-1
He kicked Oscar and hatton's ass in a much more dominating fashion than mayweather did.
Cotto is still a great win, no matter what anyone says.
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Originally posted by fightfan_79 View PostI think that decision had alot to do with how Pac would fare against a WW....after Cotto...I don't think Roach would have a problem with Pac fighting any WW not named Paul Williams.
Even though I don't understand why he'd be more wiling to allow Pac to fight Cotto rather than Mosely considering the results of the Cotto vs Mosely fight.
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Originally posted by Nike Phats View PostThe only reason Roach(Roach's own words) allowed Pac to fight Cotto is because Cotto was damaged goods, and hadn't been the same since his fight with Margarito.
Even though I don't understand why he'd be more wiling to allow Pac to fight Cotto rather than Mosely considering the results of the Cotto vs Mosely fight.
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Originally posted by SpinDoctor View Postpacquiao
beat barrera as +795 underdog when barrera was #3 p4p and in their rematch.
he beat Lehlohonolo Ledwaba who was 33 - 1 and the #1 ranked Superbantam.
he knocked down marquez 4 times and won their last fight.
he beat morales 2 out of 3.
he destroyed an undefeated Jorge Solis.
he destroyed david diaz 34-1
He kicked Oscar and hatton's ass in a much more dominating fashion than mayweather did.
Cotto is still a great win, no matter what anyone says.
Marquez: He lost nearly every round other than the first to JMM in their first fight, a fight many experts claimed JMM won. His second win over JMM was extremely controversial, and like the first, many people thought JMM won that fight as well.
Jorge Solis: Why even mention this. Jorge's biggest fight ever was against Pac, and other than the he hasn't fought anyone worth mentioning. Jorge followed up his loss to Pac with a loss to Cristobal Cruz (38-11-1).
Morales: Shot. Coming off loss where he was dominated for 12 rounds by Raheem. Manny Conveniently dodged Raheem.
Hatton: By Roach's own admission Hatton wasn't the same after taking a loss to Mayweather. Hatton was coming off a fight where he's been brutalized by Juan Lazcano.
DLH: By Roach's own admission, Oscar was shot, dehydrated, weight drained, and no longer desired to fight.
Cotto: By Roach's own admission, Cotto was damaged goods and wasn't the same after the beating he took from Margarito. Cotto was coming off a very controversial win over Josh Clottey.
Diaz: Pacs best win was over Diaz, who like most people Pac fights, was on the decline. I'll give him credit for that one though.
So again, who are all these "best fighters around" Pac fans speak of?
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