Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko Urges Wladmir: Let Me Fight David Haye!

[PensionKiller]

Vitali is a type of guy to be serious.

Maybe in the Ukraine older people get respect.

Either way Vitali has put his foot down on his bro!

[Phirsole]

Haye is a good boxer. He is really quick, has ring smarts, his Hayemaker is a powerful tool, and he's always in shape. He can go full 12 rounds, even when injured. Further, most of his fights are exciting.

Champion qualities, here.

As much as I disliked him pulling out of the two Klitschko fights, it turned out a wise move not to fight them, and not only for cash reasons. He needed some more experience in the HW division before facing the alpha dogs of the pack.

The victory over Valuev was not an exciting one, but:
- Haye may adapt to a specific opponent and sticks to his gameplan
- he has enough power to wobble one of the strongest chins in the division, even in the 12th round,
- he gathered twelve rounds of ring experience vs. the largest boxer of the planet.

OK, after praising Haye's qualities, I still think he'll lose to both Klitschkos, if he faces them soon.

- Haye's chin is not world class.
- Haye can be hit, despite his quickness (which he really is)
- He is smaller than both brothers, and needs to get inside to land one of his (very good) bombs.

If he shows an improvement in the defense department (i.e. in the Ruiz fight), I give him a reasonable chance to win vs. a Klitschko. A bigger chance than Chambers, Tua, Povetkin, Solis, or Adamek might have, but still not a chance to bet hard cash on.

Both Klitschkos appear robotic. But both are very complete fighters with lots of ring experience, power, skill, and surprising speed for their size. They wear the belts not 'cause they avoided any A-class challengers - they simply are the only A-class fighters out there.

And Haye is not yet on their level. Probably will never be. Which is a pity for the division.

[ghost deini]

I was at a boxing talk given by a New York writer a couple of weeks ago (Mike Silver, author of The Arc of Boxing: The Rise and Decline of the Sweet Science), and when it got to the present day, predictably, as soon the Americans weren't ruling the HW division, the talk turned entirely negative. This writer even went so far as to claim that weight-training was killing boxing, and that a good middleweight from "the good old days" before weights and evil practice pads would have knocked out VITALI KLITSCHKO! And this guy wants to be taken seriously. In my opinion, Silver is an idiot. The whole thing ended in an orgy of negativity with questions from the audience that all focused on negative aspects of boxing (like Americans not ruling it anymore). There is no other sport where the media who "promotes" it and covers it CONSTANTLY TELLS THE PUBLIC THAT THEIR SPORT IS NO GOOD ANYMORE. Imagine if tennis promoters did the same thing with Roger Federer or Rafael Nadal -- telling the public that since Agassi and Sampras are gone, men's tennis is no good any more. Or NBA announcers constantly saying the sport sucks since Wilt and Kareem and Jordan are gone. Anyone doing that would be fired! And that needs to happen in boxing. Let's get rid of these morose old naysayers and find some people who can promote the sport intead of running it down all the time. People like Silver are killing boxing and trying to profit from it at the same time like vampires.

if you feel that way you should read this article http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...kevin-mitchell

[Pirao]

if you feel that way you should read this article http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...kevin-mitchell

That article is a bit UKcentric, but yeah I agree with the general idea. The american media unfortunately think they are the center of the world many times.

[PensionKiller]

Haye is a good boxer. He is really quick, has ring smarts, his Hayemaker is a powerful tool, and he's always in shape. He can go full 12 rounds, even when injured. Further, most of his fights are exciting.

Champion qualities, here.

As much as I disliked him pulling out of the two Klitschko fights, it turned out a wise move not to fight them, and not only for cash reasons. He needed some more experience in the HW division before facing the alpha dogs of the pack.

The victory over Valuev was not an exciting one, but:
- Haye may adapt to a specific opponent and sticks to his gameplan
- he has enough power to wobble one of the strongest chins in the division, even in the 12th round,
- he gathered twelve rounds of ring experience vs. the largest boxer of the planet.

OK, after praising Haye's qualities, I still think he'll lose to both Klitschkos, if he faces them soon.

- Haye's chin is not world class.
- Haye can be hit, despite his quickness (which he really is)
- He is smaller than both brothers, and needs to get inside to land one of his (very good) bombs.

If he shows an improvement in the defense department (i.e. in the Ruiz fight), I give him a reasonable chance to win vs. a Klitschko. A bigger chance than Chambers, Tua, Povetkin, Solis, or Adamek might have, but still not a chance to bet hard cash on.

Both Klitschkos appear robotic. But both are very complete fighters with lots of ring experience, power, skill, and surprising speed for their size. They wear the belts not 'cause they avoided any A-class challengers - they simply are the only A-class fighters out there.

And Haye is not yet on their level. Probably will never be. Which is a pity for the division.

Very good analysis

[Malius]

But both are very complete fighters with lots of ring experience, power, skill, and surprising speed for their size. They wear the belts not 'cause they avoided any A-class challengers - they simply are the only A-class fighters out there.

And Haye is not yet on their level. Probably will never be. Which is a pity for the division.

Agree with this 100%, both Klit's saying they want Haye means the only ducking will be done by Haye, I hope he beats lil brother ONLY because I wanna see an undisputed HW champion of the WOOOOOORRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDD!!!

[The_Demon]

offer the guy a reasonable contract

[minasyan]

ahhaha love it, love the brothers

maybe they will get into an argument over this and actually fight each other